One very large country was omitted from Trump's list of tariffs

[JimmySpeaks]

4 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

There are people who have different opinions or are interested in justifying what Trump is doing(not sure how)...and then there's 'lil Jimmy. He's just taking his replies straight off twitter and almost none of them actually make sense. 

 

The WORST thing you can possibly do if you want to cut the debt...is to see your GDP go from growing at nearly 4%(which is what Biden left him with) to watching it contract...which is what will invariably happen if Trump doesn't do an about face and pull back on these tariffs. 

 

What is beyond doubt now is that this is not the Republican Party. They've abandoned all principles they had. It's just...an incoherent following of Trump no matter how much damage it does to this Country. 

-Family Values
-Free Market
-Conservationist(that one has been hit or miss for years)

The GOP died when conservatives were too afraid to push back against Trump OR they only started to do so on their way out...as Mitch McConnel is doing now. 

Dems died when they lied (the cover up is about to come out) about Biden being competent, then got exposed and then thru him out with the trash.  Their propped up a woke DEI candidate and jazz hands Walz which failed miserably and Americans voted accordingly.  Scrooge and his commie buddies are now licking their wounds and mad as hell.   

[Tripnsweep]

2 hours ago, Boring said:

You'd think the multiple bankruptcies would've clued people in on that fact, wouldn't you? 

You would. But the big lie of his success that was because he is so smart and good at business seems to overtake reality. 

[Tripnsweep]

1 hour ago, JimmySpeaks said:

We were told to trust the competence of Biden for almost four years while Dems knew he was senile. Once Dems couldn’t hide it anymore they dumped him.  And they paid for it 

At least we knew Biden wouldn't do anything stupid and tank the economy because he thought he knew better. Also has Biden bankrupted multiple casinos under his ownership? 

[JimmySpeaks]

27 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

At least we knew Biden wouldn't do anything stupid and tank the economy because he thought he knew better. Also has Biden bankrupted multiple casinos under his ownership? 

He was running the company when he didn’t know better.  You didn’t care.  

[JimmySpeaks]

29 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

You would. But the big lie of his success that was because he is so smart and good at business seems to overtake reality. 

Reality is Biden being senile and Dems covering it up.  Dems thru him out for incompetence yet let him keep the codes for another half a year

[Tripnsweep]

9 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Reality is Biden being senile and Dems covering it up.  Dems thru him out for incompetence yet let him keep the codes for another half a year

I'm sorry but did Biden do something stupid to crash the economy? 

[JimmySpeaks]

3 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

I'm sorry but did Biden do something stupid to crash the economy? 

Ya.  On day one he signed a RECORD amount of EOs, many against big energy which caused oil to go up, gas prices to go up, which led to transportation costs going up, which led to prices going up which led to Bidenflation 

[scourge165]

1 hour ago, Tripnsweep said:

I'm sorry but did Biden do something stupid to crash the economy? 

Our Economy not only didn't crash(as Trump stated it would or had dozens of times) but it was actually the strongest economy and quickest recovery from Covid.

 

[JimmySpeaks]

9 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

Our Economy not only didn't crash(as Trump stated it would or had dozens of times) but it was actually the strongest economy and quickest recovery from Covid.

 

Because of warp speed 

[Husker_Du]

regarding the original country (Russia)

they account for less than 1% of total US imports. 

[JimmySpeaks]

18 hours ago, jross said:

Banned before and still this charming?

I’m confused. How can someone be banned before and still be here to be charming.  Wouldn’t that be more like a suspension????   And what’s wrong with charming?

[scourge165]

38 minutes ago, Husker_Du said:

regarding the original country (Russia)

they account for less than 1% of total US imports. 

We put a Island on our list that accounts for 0% of US imports. 

We put another small Island on the list where ONE person accounted for 3.4M dollars in exports leaving a 3.3M trade imbalance.

Clearly we weren't worried on the percentage of trade we had with each Country. So...again, why leave Russia off?

I've been told by some VERY enthusiastic Trump supporters this is about leverage. No tariffs=no leverage. Now...is there anything we'd want leverage on Russia for at the moment;

 

This is a Trump supporter who...called lefties "clueless" for thinking Trump would put blanket tariffs on countries. 

 

 

Edited Sunday at 06:33 AM by scourge165

[Boring]

1 hour ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Because of warp speed 

All CREDIT DUE GREAT LEADER! ALL BOW TO GREAT LEADER!!!!

[Boring]

3 hours ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Reality is Biden being senile and Dems covering it up.  Dems thru him out for incompetence yet let him keep the codes for another half a year

Wow, must be pretty terrible that your Lord and Master crashed the market and "senile Joe" never did. What does that say about your infantile, low IQ Lord and Master? 

[Husker_Du]

2 hours ago, scourge165 said:

We put a Island on our list that accounts for 0% of US imports. 

We put another small Island on the list where ONE person accounted for 3.4M dollars in exports leaving a 3.3M trade imbalance.

Clearly we weren't worried on the percentage of trade we had with each Country. So...again, why leave Russia off?

I've been told by some VERY enthusiastic Trump supporters this is about leverage. No tariffs=no leverage. Now...is there anything we'd want leverage on Russia for at the moment;

 

This is a Trump supporter who...called lefties "clueless" for thinking Trump would put blanket tariffs on countries. 

 

 

i'm addressing the title/topic of this thread. 

which has gone off the rails without a single person discussing...the title/topic of this thread. 

[scourge165]

1 hour ago, Husker_Du said:

i'm addressing the title/topic of this thread. 

which has gone off the rails without a single person discussing...the title/topic of this thread. 

Ok...I feel like my post was pretty on point. We exported ~600 Million to Russia in 2023.

The United States has TWO Countries that are substantive threats. China and Russia. Russia, we KNOW tried daily hacks, they used misinformation, they're the more guilty of this than anyone(I'm not saying they fixed an election...but they try to influence them). 

Now...given the fact that they didn't over look a tiny Island Nation nor a Island with ZERO Humans on it, how do you justify Russia? Sanctions? You can try. It's SUPER disingenuous given China's effective tariff rate is 2.2 and ours was 1.5 and we put 54% on them. That and we literally will not allow them to buy the MOST valuable resource for the next economic revolution, Nvidia's H100/H200 and ESPECIALLY now the B100 or B200 Blackwell GPUs. 

So it's not Free Trade(which Republicans and conservatives and capitalists, at least laisse faire capitalists have STRONGLY advocated for in this Country) on our part, but I could see how you'd arrive at putting some tariffs on China.

I DON'T see how you justify NOT doing it with Russia.

Not only that, but you want to see out a Country that violated OUR LAWS(we are still a part of Nato and they have shot into Nato allies)....but Trump wants MORE trade with them and less with everyone else?

 

Make this make sense?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2025/03/30/trump-wants-more-trade-with-russia-but-less-with-everyone-else/

 

But again, I don't get how you leave off...Russia, and that they're only 1% of our trade isn't a strong argument against doing so. 

[JimmySpeaks]

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-tariffs-trump-moex-2055779
 

 

 

Just because they’re not on the list YET.  

[jross]

9 hours ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Banned?  

Banned, suspended, whatever.  

Einhorn is Finkle! Finkle is Einhorn!

GreatWhiteNorth is RockLobster!

GreatWhiteNorth was a good contributor to the wrestling forum and psychotic on the non wrestling forum.  His profile name and photo appears as a trollish sock puppet with blue hair on my stylized Intermat.

 

[JimmySpeaks]

4 hours ago, Boring said:

Wow, must be pretty terrible that your Lord and Master crashed the market and "senile Joe" never did. What does that say about your infantile, low IQ Lord and Master? 

I still have more money now than I did under Biden. Again let me know when it actually crashes 

[JimmySpeaks]

3 minutes ago, jross said:

Banned, suspended, whatever.  

Einhorn is Finkle! Finkle is Einhorn!

GreatWhiteNorth is RockLobster!

GreatWhiteNorth was a good contributor to the wrestling forum and psychotic on the non wrestling forum.  His profile name and photo appears as a trollish sock puppet with blue hair on my stylized Intermat.

 

I have no idea what that means but it’s sounds like “because you don’t like someone” you censor them 

[JimmySpeaks]

6 hours ago, scourge165 said:

Our Economy not only didn't crash(as Trump stated it would or had dozens of times) but it was actually the strongest economy and quickest recovery from Covid.

 

And it hasn’t crashed now either huh? 

[jross]

Trump said he would do this in the 80s and again before the election.  We were told it would get worse before getting better.  There are good intentions and reasoning behind the moves.  Tradeoffs.  I'm going to wait and see what occurs.  It will be interesting and expensive to see what surprise is ahead of us.

The tariffs are too blunt and broad for my taste.  But I do understand the reasoning and what he is attempting to do.

[jross]

5 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

I have no idea what that means but it’s sounds like “because you don’t like someone” you censor them 

I curate my own experience to when or if I will engage with those I find objectionable, such as your JimmyBT account.  I don't silence others.

This isn't about views.  Fishbane is smart and respectful.  He could list just about any view in a respectful manner.  I can't hear some people over the sound of their insolence.

[JimmySpeaks]

3 minutes ago, jross said:

I curate my own experience to when or if I will engage with those I find objectionable, such as your JimmyBT account.  I don't silence others.

This isn't about views.  Fishbane is smart and respectful.  He could list just about any view in a respectful manner.  I can't hear some people over the sound of their insolence.

So suspending someone without a reason isn’t silencing them?  That’s funny 

Edited Sunday at 12:15 PM by JimmySpeaks

[jross]

5 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

So suspending someone without a reason isn’t silencing them?  That’s funny 

I am a forum member, not an admin.  I have not suspended anyone.  But if I was an admin, I'd implement guidelines. 

 

The current guidelines seem that you get suspended when Bob is annoyed.  Bob doesn't have time to police this free site all day.  Often both the content reporter and offender annoy Bob.  Husker seems have a higher annoyance threshold than Bob...