Will greed, pure greed be Cael’s downfall?

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4 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

I predicted Cael's greed (e.g. getting Rocco Welsh) would lead to his downfall.  And now he has lost Ryder who is a blue chipper with 4 years of eligibility.  He may lose Duke too.

Apparently you missed the part where Welch said he is good friends with Duke and they couldbt wait to wrestle together in college.  

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10 minutes ago, swoopdown said:

Bruce is Cael and all things PSU on this forum right now.  

 

What the hell is that? I loved it, but what the hell?

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On 3/27/2025 at 8:01 PM, CHROMEBIRD said:

It's an embarrassment of riches for sure, but Cael will probably rationalize it as merely a business decision in the same way wrestlers these days look out for their own individual interests first, and then sprinkle on some guru-speak about it not mattering if you start or not, because it's about learning to be a champion in life or whatever.

I HONESTLY don't believe Cael is seeking out the Welsh types of Dean or guys like that. Even Ono. I doubt Cael even considered that. You hear Dake and Bo Nickal and Starocci...those are likely the guys getting into their ears and then the money is coming in and Cael's sitting there saying, 'well...the BEST P4P Wrestler in the world(Askren's words) and the guy who took 2nd as a Freshmen wants to come? Yeah, sure...

 

As for the HS recruits, you've already heard Bassett and others talk about it. They're not out there pushing you. They tell you want they think about Wrestling, how they try and have fun and basically, 'this is what we do, we'd love to have ya.'

 

The only thing I'm uncertain of, does he honor commitments or does he keep going after guys like James? I don't know.

What I do know is that they lose Bartlett, Starocci and Kerkvliet and they'll replace them with Ono, Blaze, Welsh and Mirasola or a transfer(or Cochran) and...they already have 50 more points RETURNING than anyone else...and I'd say they were upset in 4 weights. 

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6 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

I predicted Cael's greed (e.g. getting Rocco Welsh) would lead to his downfall.  And now he has lost Ryder who is a blue chipper with 4 years of eligibility.  He may lose Duke too.

Where are you getting he may lose Duke

Welsh has 3 years of eligibility and Jayden James, Duke, Cunningham, Henkel and probably 9 more elite recruits will be there by the time Welsh' time is up. 

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3 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

Where are you getting he may lose Duke

Welsh has 3 years of eligibility and Jayden James, Duke, Cunningham, Henkel and probably 9 more elite recruits will be there by the time Welsh' time is up. 

people have been openly speculating it because they are jealous of the school's success on a very loose basis of Ryder and Duke having wrestled on the same team in the past and come from New York.  

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Still waiting for the downfall part…

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No, because even if there is a “downfall,” it will likely be to Taylor, who appears to be employing pretty much the same tactics.