Dept of Education

[WrestlingRasta]

Classroom discipline is certainly the responsibility of the school.   To act like a child's development of discipline and accountability begins and ends at the school and not at home.......is not ridiculous but scary.  

[WrestlingRasta]

1 minute ago, JimmySpeaks said:

The favorite parent thing is definitely real. That being said even when the intent of each individual parent is in the right place there’s still only one parent nurturing at separate houses.  It’s just basic math that when there’s two parents in the same house as the kids they will get more attention,  communication love, support, discipline, accountability etc….   Can it be done. Absolutely.  It’s just not going to be as easy.  

agreed

[JimmySpeaks]

2 hours ago, Scouts Honor said:

7th grade standards now include algebra

as far as discipline, if i need help and the teacher is busy dealing with knuckleheads, i dont get help.

 

This IMO is one of the bigger problems in schools right now.  Most teachers aren’t able to contain/control an entire classroom on their own anymore and need a support person to help with the undisciplined students.  Kids aren’t getting the attention needed and fall behind because of it while the resources arent there to help them catch.  No kid left behind is over. 

[Caveira]

4 hours ago, JimmySpeaks said:

This IMO is one of the bigger problems in schools right now.  Most teachers aren’t able to contain/control an entire classroom on their own anymore and need a support person to help with the undisciplined students.  Kids aren’t getting the attention needed and fall behind because of it while the resources arent there to help them catch.  No kid left behind is over. 

It’s a different world.  I know a kid somewhere around 6/7/8th grade.  He has not been to school in 6 months.   The mom can’t physically make him apparently.   (To big).   My head would have been knocked clear off.   I can’t imagine if my father had to be called about me not going to school.   Kids don’t fear parents or authority it seems.  Need a little more of that these days.  

[Scouts Honor]

again, this is all parenting.

the child has never been told and made to do something. 

[mspart]

18 hours ago, Scouts Honor said:

again, this is all parenting.

the child has never been told and made to do something. 

Agree.   Some kids find out from experience or friends that CPS is a great threat.   Accuse abuse and you can be removed.   Kids can usually get what they want if they push the right buttons.  

On the other hand, if parents do not support the school disciplinary measures, what is the school to do?   Suspend?  Expel?   Get sued for doing so?  

Both the Education system and parents are at fault here and they are failing the kids. 

mspart

Edited Friday at 08:34 PM by mspart

[red viking]

We gotta get back to old fashioned beatings. That will improve grades for sure. 

[mspart]

We need to get back to if you get in trouble in school it is 10 times worse for you at home.  Parents need to support the school's attempts at discipline.    That doesn't happen.   It's not about beatings.   Although the threat of the electric paddle at my elementary school kept most of us at bay.   Nobody wanted to find out about that beast the Principal had in her office. 

I think I got spanked at school from 1st through 5th grade.   At least once.   We moved from AL to WA in 6th grade and the new school did not spank.   The Jr high didn't either, but the new jr high did with a huge paddle with holes.   I had a choice, clean up the lunch room or get the swat.   I took the swat.   That was 9th grade and that was the last time I got swatted. 

For all the beatings, I did not turn out too bad.   They were pretty mild really.   But I sure didn't want any of that mess to get back to my mom or dad.   No way!!

mspart

[Scouts Honor]

25 minutes ago, red viking said:

We gotta get back to old fashioned beatings. That will improve grades for sure. 

well if you say so.

[Scouts Honor]

26 minutes ago, red viking said:

We gotta get back to old fashioned beatings. That will improve grades for sure. 

so mr expert...what is the problem with schools?

not enough money?