Best Wrestlers to Never Win an NCAA Title

[Jim L]

  On 4/1/2025 at 7:02 PM, jross said:

Thats a great guess.  Andy attended Northern Michigan University, which does not compete in Folkstyle.

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I was ready to guess NMU alum Harry Lester, but think he only had one world medal

[Jim L]

  On 4/1/2025 at 3:18 PM, jross said:

Which wrestler has achieved multiple podium finishes in Greco-Roman at the senior-level World Championships or Olympics, yet never placed among the top finishers in NCAA Division I Folkstyle wrestling?

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While we are doing Greco trivia name the only DI champ to win a world meal.

And name at least two other DI champs who made US World team.

[OMW]

  On 4/1/2025 at 7:41 PM, Jim L said:

While we are doing Greco trivia name the only DI champ to win a world meal.

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Brad Vering!

[OMW]

  On 4/1/2025 at 7:15 PM, CHROMEBIRD said:

Dunno about best, but I thought funkmaster Jason Welch would win a title his senior year. I think he lost to DSJ twice, Bubba, Fittery, Adam Hall, can't remember who else at NCAAs.

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Of note, Jay got his 1st National Champ this season for San Francisco State!

[gimpeltf]

  On 4/1/2025 at 7:41 PM, Jim L said:

While we are doing Greco trivia name the only DI champ to win a world meal.

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Might not have won D1s (4th) but I'm sure Rulon Gardner won quite a few meals!

[lisa morales]

Ryan Churella (Michigan) 3. 4, 2*  

* Kesseled

[jross]

  On 4/1/2025 at 7:41 PM, Jim L said:

While we are doing Greco trivia name the only DI champ to win a world meal.

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Keeping it Greco

Brad Vering was a D1 champion that took 2nd at Worlds in 2007.  5th at Worlds in 2002 and 2003.

Jeff Blatnick was a D2 champion that was the Champ in the 1984 Olympics. 

Who are at least two other D2 champs that medaled in a World/Olympics?

Who are at least two D3 champs to win a World/Olympics medal?

 

Edited Tuesday at 08:44 PM by jross

[jchapman]

  On 4/1/2025 at 8:38 PM, jross said:

Brad Vering was a D1 champion that took 2nd at Worlds in 2007.  5th at Worlds in 2002 and 2003.

Jeff Blatnick was a D2 champion that was the Champ in the 1984 Olympics. 

Who are at least two other D2 champs that medaled in a World/Olympics?

Who are at least two D3 champs to win a World/Olympics medal?

 

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Rick Sanders, Stan Dziedzic?  Wait, you mean in Greco?  Nevermind.

Edited Tuesday at 08:49 PM by jchapman

[jross]

  On 4/1/2025 at 7:41 PM, Jim L said:

Name at least two other DI champs who made US World team.

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Wrestler	GR Rep Count	GR Best Place	GR Last Year	FS Rep Count	FS Best Place	FS Last Year
Brad Vering	6	2	2008
Marty Morgan	2	DNP	1995
Evan Johnson	1	DNP	1976
Mike Gallego	1	DNP	1973	1	DNP	1973
Wayne Baughman	8	5	1972	2	5	1972
Chris Taylor	2	4	1972	1	3	1972
Rick Sanders	1	DNP	1972	6	1	1972
Dale Lewis	2	DNP	1961	1	DNP	1961
William Weick	1	DNP	1961
Larry Lauchle	1	DNP	1960

[jchapman]

  On 4/1/2025 at 3:18 PM, jross said:

Which wrestler has achieved multiple podium finishes in Greco-Roman at the senior-level World Championships or Olympics, yet never placed among the top finishers in NCAA Division I Folkstyle wrestling?

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Dennis Hall

[GimJustafan]

  On 3/26/2025 at 11:21 PM, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Michael Kemerer?

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lots of guys stay in school for 7 years

they are called doctors 

[jross]

  On 4/1/2025 at 8:43 PM, jchapman said:

Dennis Hall

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Bingo!  Extra credit!  I had him as not competing in college, and he at least began his freshmen year at Wisconsin.  What confidence he had!

 

Edited Tuesday at 08:59 PM by jross

[jross]

  On 4/1/2025 at 8:41 PM, jchapman said:

Rick Sanders, Stan Dziedzic?  Wait, you mean in Greco?  Nevermind.

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You are spot on for FS

[Jim L]

  On 4/1/2025 at 8:38 PM, jross said:

Keeping it Greco

Brad Vering was a D1 champion that took 2nd at Worlds in 2007.  5th at Worlds in 2002 and 2003.

Jeff Blatnick was a D2 champion that was the Champ in the 1984 Olympics. 

Who are at least two other D2 champs that medaled in a World/Olympics?

Who are at least two D3 champs to win a World/Olympics medal?

 

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Kozlowski 2x for D2??

Edited Wednesday at 12:08 AM by Jim L

[Boring]

  On 3/30/2025 at 9:24 AM, Ched64 said:

Eric Grajales was a highly touted recruit to Michigan back in 2010ish.  i think he was a 5 time state champ out of florida. over his career, he was one of the more exciting wrestlers on the circuit but didn’t crack AA until his final year with a 3rd in 2013.  Though slowed by injuries and a questionable gas tank, he was extremely entertaining and always a difficult out.

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Grajales gas tank wasn't questionable at all, it was straight up bad! He was a talented guy and fun to watch. 

[jackwebster]

  On 4/1/2025 at 3:11 PM, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Let me share a little secret: the wrestling is fun crowd is filled with "dicks."  Nickal, Carter, Taylor, etc,.  even Nolf.  The whole crew enjoys inflicting pain and humiliation.  That is their fun. And that is the case with most good wrestlers. I'm not sure why there is any confusion on their motivations.

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No doubt, and this is a point worth making every time they appeal to the God of love and compassion.

Though to be fair, the folks you name are not as likely to mention JC as some others.

[WrestlingRecords.com]

  On 4/1/2025 at 7:15 PM, CHROMEBIRD said:

Dunno about best, but I thought funkmaster Jason Welch would win a title his senior year. I think he lost to DSJ twice, Bubba, Fittery, Adam Hall, can't remember who else at NCAAs.

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Agreed. Jason Welch was great.

[jross]

  On 4/1/2025 at 8:38 PM, jross said:

Keeping it Greco

Who are at least two D3 champs to win a World/Olympics medal?

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[jross]

  On 4/1/2025 at 8:38 PM, jross said:

Keeping it Greco

Jeff Blatnick was a D2 champion that was the Champ in the 1984 Olympics. 

Who are at least two other D2 champs that medaled in a World/Olympics?

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Note: for common names, there could be some false positives matching college to senior results.  I did not go one by one to validate.