How does ono fail in my opinion.

[Truzzcat]

@Husker_Du put out the crystal ball go check it out! He has ono at 141 with Blaze redshirting not really what I want to talk about just putting that out there to avoid questions about lineup. He has Ono taking third and I went through a wave of emotions. First thought was "that seems high" and then I thought actually this guy is so good on his feet it does not matter. Then I dug into the guys at the weight and came back to the conclusion that at least at 141 I think 3 is too high and there could be a few match ups where he simply starts the match down 2-0. The immediate guys that stick out to be that pose the biggest issues are the guys Willie has ahead of him Mendez and Hardy. Both of these guys I think can go into the second period down at worst 6-2 and it could very well be that folk positioning allows them to keep it closer than that and even get takedowns in situations Ono is unfamiliar.I think it is unlikely that he becomes proficient enough on bottom that he does not at least give up 2 minutes of riding and a stall point against guys that good on top. What becomes a huge factor to me is choice. If I am PSU If Ono wins the toss I think you 100% go neutral in the second. I do not think you want him going down and getting exhausted underneath. So then you are put in a position where he is tired in the third potentially down on riding time and only up a few points with stall calls. I have never seen Ono tired but there is a big difference between 6 minutes of neutral wrestling with a lot of stoppages and an intermission between periods and 7 minutes of wrestling with scrambling, leg passing and wrestling. I think his style and success of it is very predicated on his positioning and if that breaks down from fatigue I see guys being able to get his hands on the mat and run corner because of his upper body posture. Now when looking at the crystal ball the only guys I think are good enough on their feet or good enough and extending positions and limiting damage, who are also turners on top or can create enough of an image of activity to create stall calls are Frost,Lemley,Stanich,Mendez,Hardy,Jack,Composto. That is a lot of land mines for me though to predict him to do worse than third but honestly coming over to a completely new style I think just being an AA is an incredible accomplishment for him. I could be completely miss guided though and he could learn enough on bottom from zain pounding on him every day to stay active and use his explosiveness to get away on even the best guys I just don't think that's the most likely scenario first year. Just something I was thinking about on my lunch break would love to hear your guys opinions. I will add I think 133 because of the styles guys present is a much cleaner path for him.

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

Line breaks?

[CHROMEBIRD]

I'm skeptical that Ono will be ready for folk, esp at 141. Mendez will spladle him.

[BarSeries]

7 minutes ago, CHROMEBIRD said:

I'm skeptical that Ono will be ready for folk, esp at 141. Mendez will spladle him.

Ono in the blue and white singlet, Cliff Keen headgear, and getting spladled by Mendez. Lol I can see it

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

 I don't Ono to score backpoints against someone or earn many riding time points. 

However, I think given his strength and skills and Penn State's coaching it will be rare that he gets dominated on top and can't stand up and escape.

[CHROMEBIRD]

6 minutes ago, BarSeries said:

Ono in the blue and white singlet, Cliff Keen headgear, and getting spladled by Mendez. Lol I can see it

Idk, I just think he'll get caught in some stupid position on the mat. If I'm his opponent, I don't let him work from space and force scrambles. Ono's used to not giving up exposure so stuff like rolling through, fighting from the crackdown position, grambys, won't come naturally. Also look for opportunities to use the Merkle to take him down. All easier said than done, I know, but I do think the folkstyle learning curve will be steeper that he may expect.

[BarSeries]

1 minute ago, CHROMEBIRD said:

Idk, I just think he'll get caught in some stupid position on the mat. If I'm his opponent, I don't let him work from space and force scrambles. Ono's used to not giving up exposure so stuff like rolling through, fighting from the crackdown position, grambys, won't come naturally. Also look for opportunities to use the Merkle to take him down. All easier said than done, I know, but I do think the folkstyle learning curve will be steeper that he may expect.

How many locked hands calls does he get next year?

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

Merkles and spladles all day...Ono is doomed!

[Coastal]

Imagine is Mess was even better on his feet but awful on top and bottom?   Ono might go through a season with nothing but bonus.  There are levels to these things and Ono is on another planet

[Husker_Du]

i really have no idea what weight Ono is going to go. i might move him to 133 in the next update. he was a 61kg guy and i thought there's a big difference between making weight once and holding it every week.

however some say he's going to 57kg for LA. so maybe he wants to slim out and stay within distance of that.

we all know how good he is in neutral. but i've never seen him wrestle a folk match in his life and i thought putting him behind the two returning finalists in Crystal Ball was the appropriate move. 

[ionel]

Sounds like Penn St should kick him into the portal ASAP!