What Is At Stake? - 2025 Edition

[Wrestleknownothing]

I need to get this one out of the way a little early this year as I have a few things coming up that will distract me from the forum for a bit.

Once, Twice, Three Times....

The great Lionel Ritchie said it best. Who will be a "timer" this year?

Possible Two-Timers (not that kind, the good kind):

125 - Richie Figueroa
141 - Jesse Mendez
141 - Andrew Alirez
149 - Caleb Henson
174 - Levi Haines
184 - Parker Keckeisen
197 - AJ Ferrari
285 - Greg Kerkvliet

Possible Three-Timers (As Easy As 1, 2, ...)

174 - Keegan O'Toole
285 - Gable Steveson

Possible Five-Timer ("There Can Be Only One")

184 - Carter Starocci

 

Movin On Up

I have tracked the highest scoring wrestlers in NCAA history (using current scoring rules) down to number 234. To make the list you need to meet, or exceed Ed Peery's 59 total points. There are a handful of wrestlers who have a shot at moving onto the list, and a few who will move up the list (barring catastrophe).

The Possible Newbies (* denotes fifth year)

Ridge Lovett currently on 31 points
Beau Bartlett currently on 35.5 points*
Kyle Parco currently on 40 points*
Stephen Buchanan currently on 40 points
Wyatt Hendrickson currently on 48.5 points*
Cohlton Schultz currently on 58 points*

Going To A Deluxe Apartment In The Sky?

Who are the guys already on the list that have a chance to move on up?

For reference, the top 5 scorers in NCAA history are:

• Cael Sanderson (107.5)
• Logan Stieber (103.5)
• Ed Banach (102.5)
• Mark Churella (99.5)
• David Taylor (99)

 

A Toast To The Most?

We are Americans. We like the most of everything. Do I want fries with that? Silly question. I want all the fries. Bigger, Higher, Better.

There are at least two possible mosts on the line.

Team Points

Who knows what is happening with Josh Barr? Perhaps only Nick Suriano. But, assuming he is healthy, and assuming Braeden Davis can stay out of scrambles, PSU has a very real shot at decimating the team points record that has stood the test of time. As long as by time you mean 12 months. I will update my projection for them some time after seeds come out, but based on post-conference rankings they could be as high as 199 points. Though I highly doubt that.

Losses

We all know about Carter Starocci and his pursuit of the most NCAA titles, thanks to the NCAA decision to grant as many years as it takes. But there is another side to that coin. With more opportunity to win comes more opportunity to lose. And sadly there is a wrestler who has the chance to become the losing-est wrestler in NCAA tournament history.

But don't take that statement as a judgement (as many on the forums are want to do), because to attain that title a wrestler needs to be a winner first, and foremost. Oh, the irony. The only way to rack up loses is to win. Finishing 6th or 8th gets you three loses. That's an All-American, baby.

So shout out to Kyle Parco. Having finished 6th, 8th, 4th, and 5th he has 10 total loses (3+3+2+2). If he finishes with 2 more loses (fourth or worse), the record is his, and his alone. With an asterisk, of course. The current holders of the title, with 11 total loses, are Kirk Mammen (Oklahoma State 6th, 6th, 5th, 8th) and Ben Bennett (Central Michigan 6th, 8th, 6th, 4th).

Long may you ride.

 

If I have left anything out, please add to the list.

 

[Mr. PeanutButter]

That Parco stat is gold and has a real shot of happening

[Wrestleknownothing]

I have a big swing and I miss for a PSU fan.

Levi Haines should be on the list of possible newbies. He has 44 points already in his two tournaments.

[Elevator]

The intial post is gold!  Thanks for the hard work and and insight (if not incite).

[Mr. PeanutButter]

posting the Parco bit on HR is a masterclass of generating good and congenial discussion

[Wrestleknownothing]

21 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

posting the Parco bit on HR is a masterclass of generating good and congenial discussion

I went back and forth on whether to post that there. I knew not everyone would take it in the spirit it was meant.

[bnwtwg]

It still blows my mind that either Haines or KOT is going to end up as "only" a two-time NCAA champ after next weekend.

[BarSeries]

9 minutes ago, bnwtwg said:

It still blows my mind that either Haines or KOT is going to end up as "only" a two-time NCAA champ after next weekend.

Blows my mind that Hamiti will win his first

[bnwtwg]

53 minutes ago, bnwtwg said:

It still blows my mind that either Haines or KOT is going to end up as "only" a two-time NCAA champ after next weekend.

My addition was wrong which simply reinforces i am an idiot on the internet

[CHROMEBIRD]

4 hours ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

That Parco stat is gold and has a real shot of happening

If Parco is losing big late in the 3rd place match, I hope he tees off on his opponent and gets DQed. Gotta finish strong and definitively.