Wild Cards

[crossface21]

Are the wild cards released earlier than the full brackets? I thought in years past they announced those the day before. 

[Wrestleknownothing]

1 minute ago, crossface21 said:

Are the wild cards released earlier than the full brackets? I thought in years past they announced those the day before. 

I believe the full list of 330 comes out sometime today

[Idaho]

42 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

I believe the full list of 330 comes out sometime today

Yes - I think it's at 12 ET full list (at-large) are realeased.

[jdalu75]

1 hour ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

I believe the full list of 330 comes out sometime today

Correct.  Seeds tomorrow evening.

Where the full list of 330 shows up is anyone's guess.  The pre-allocated spots were announced on the NWCA site, not the NCAA's.

[wjd]

Bracket reveal is Wednesday night on NCAA.COM

[maligned]

2 hours ago, Idaho said:

Yes - I think it's at 12 ET full list (at-large) are realeased.

Where? Don't see it where they normally release it.

[Idaho]

Just now, maligned said:

Where? Don't see it where they normally release it.

Hey bud, I'm refreshing every 10 seconds like you....  

[jdalu75]

Maybe they're actually checking their numbers this year, before releasing ....

[jajensen09]

3 hours ago, Idaho said:

Yes - I think it's at 12 ET full list (at-large) are realeased.

Where at

[KCMO2]

According to the Mizzou website they're supposed to be released Wednesday.

[Mike]

https://x.com/MatScouts1/status/1899527245992968255https://x.com/MatScouts1/status/1899527245992968255

[Idaho]

https://www.ncaa.com/news/wrestling/article/2025-03-11/ncaa-announces-large-selections-2025-division-i-wrestling-championships

In case you didn't see it in the other thread. 

[killdozer]

I posted my guesses right as they announced it let's see how I did. I am usually wrong 20% of the time.

125 - (4)
Spencer Moore, North Carolina 
Joey Cruz, Iowa
Koda Holman, Cal Poly
Anthony Molton, Campbell (WRONG)
Outside Looking in: Tanner Jordan, South Dakota State (WRONG), Diego Sotelo, Carson Wagner-Binghampton, Kysen Terukina-Iowa State, Gage Walker-Missouri, Robbie Sagaris-Long Island, Desmond Pleasant-Drexel, Drew Davis-SIUE

133 - (4)
Evan Frost, Iowa State 
Tyler Knox, Stanford
Reece Witcraft, Oklahoma State (WRONG)
Tyler Wells, Minnesota
Outside Looking in: Ethan Bergic- Army (WRONG), Cleveland Belton- Oklahoma, Markel Baker- Northern Illinois, Kyle Waterman-Drexel, Matty Lopes-Lehigh, Micah Roes-Binghampton, 

141-
Josh Edmond, Missouri
Danny Pucino, Illinois
Bryce Kresho - Franklin & Marshall (WRONG)
AJ Rallo - Bellermine
Outside Looking in: Ian Oswalt- Brown, Danny Martinez - SIUE, Andrew Austin- Central Michigan, Cole Brooks, Wyoming, , Kai Owens-Columbia, Eli Griffin-Cal Baptist, Henry Porter-Indiana, Jayden Scott- North Carolina (WRONG)

149-
Jaden Abas, Stanford
Willie McDougald, Oklahoma
Sam Cartella, Northwestern
Drew Roberts, Minnesota (WRONG)
Malakye Hines, Lehigh
Gabe Willochell, Wyoming
Outside Looking in: Ryan Michaels - Edinboro, Avery Allen - South Dakota State, Kai Owens, Columbia, Joey Buttler-Indiana, Finn Solomon - Pitt, Paul Kelly-Cal Baptist, Wynton Denton- Campbell (WRONG), Derek Raidke, Ohio

157-
J Conway, Missouri
Trevor Chumbley, Northwestern
Dylan Evans, Pitt
Blake Saito, Brown
Ryan Burgos, Edinboro (WRONG)
Grigor Cholakyan, Stanford
Connor Harer, Rutgers (WRONG)
Outside Looking in: Jason Kraisser-Illinois, Sonny Santiago-North Carolina, Legend Lamer-Cal Poly, Kaleb Burgess-Kent State, Eric Almarinez-SIUE, , CJ Hamblin-Oregon State (WRONG), Jonathan Ley-Navy, Colton Washleski-Rider, Nick Stampoulos-Lock Haven, James Harrington- Harvard (WRONG)

165-
Drake Rhodes, South Dakota State
Will Miller, Appalachian State
Evan Maag, George Mason (WRONG)
Gunner Filipowicz, Army
Outside Looking in: Anthony White- Rutgers, Stoney Buell-Purdue, Clayton Ulrey- Northern Colorado, Tyler Lillard-Indiana (WRONG), Aidan Wallace-Duke, Carter Baer-Binghampton, Dylan Elmore-Navy, Luca Wick-Cal Poly

174-
Lorenzo Norman, Stanford
Nick Incontrera, Penn
Jackson Turley, Rutgers
Mykles Takata, Bucknell
Outside Looking in: Brody Conley-West Virginia, Lucas Uliano-App St, Derek Gilcher-Indiana, Michael Wilson-Rider, John Worthing-Clarion, 

184-
Jaden Bullock, Michigan (WRONG)
Dennis Robin, West Virginia
Colin Fegley, Lock Haven
Colton Hawks, Missouri
Daschle Lamer-Cal Poly (WRONG)
Outside Looking in: TJ Stewart, Virginia Tech, Ryder Rogotzke-Ohio State, Gerrit Nenjinhuis- Cal St Bakersfield, Brock Delsignore-Little Rock, Jeremy Olszko-Ohio, Caden Rogers-Lehigh (WRONG)

197-
Joey Novak, Wyoming
Tucker Hogan, Lock Haven
Ben Vanadia, Purdue (WRONG)
Wolfgang Frable, Army
Outside Looking in: Carson Floyd - App State (WRONG), Brian Burburjia - Air Force, Cade Lautt - North Carolina, Luke Cochran - Central Michigan, Nate Schon - Iowa State, 

285-
Isaac Trumble, NC State
Yaraslau Slavakouski, Rutgers
Lance Runyon, Northern Iowa
Daniel Herrera, Iowa State
Outside Looking in: Juan Mora - Oklahoma, Seth Nitzel - Missouri, Xavier Doolin - Morgan State, Dalton Mayer - Bellermine, James Blackman- George Mason, Alex Semenenko - Brown, 

Edited 19 hours ago by killdozer

[Warm Up Champ]

2 minutes ago, killdozer said:

I did some looking into to the Wildcards and I think it might look like this... But I am usually wrong 20% of the time on these. 

125 - (4)
Spencer Moore, North Carolina 
Joey Cruz, Iowa
Koda Holman, Cal Poly
Anthony Molton, Campbell 
Outside Looking in: Tanner Jordan, South Dakota State, Diego Sotelo, Carson Wagner-Binghampton, Kysen Terukina-Iowa State, Gage Walker-Missouri, Robbie Sagaris-Long Island, Desmond Pleasant-Drexel, Drew Davis-SIUE

133 - (4)
Evan Frost, Iowa State 
Tyler Knox, Stanford
Reece Witcraft, Oklahoma State
Tyler Wells, Minnesota
Outside Looking in: Ethan Bergic- Army, Cleveland Belton- Oklahoma, Markel Baker- Northern Illinois, Kyle Waterman-Drexel, Matty Lopes-Lehigh, Micah Roes-Binghampton, 

141-
Josh Edmond, Missouri
Danny Pucino, Illinois
Bryce Kresho - Franklin & Marshall
Henry Porter-Indiana
Outside Looking in: Ian Oswalt- Brown, Danny Martinez - SIUE, Jayden Scott- North Carolina, Andrew Austin- Central Michigan, Cole Brooks, Wyoming, , Kai Owens-Columbia, Eli Griffin-Cal Baptist, AJ Rallo - Bellermine

149-
Jaden Abas, Stanford
Willie McDougald, Oklahoma
Sam Cartella, Northwestern
Drew Roberts, Minnesota
Derek Raidke, Ohio
Gabe Willochell, Wyoming
Outside Looking in: Ryan Michaels - Edinboro, Avery Allen - South Dakota State, Kai Owens, Columbia, Joey Buttler-Indiana, Finn Solomon - Pitt, Paul Kelly-Cal Baptist

157-
J Conway, Missouri
Trevor Chumbley, Northwestern
Dylan Evans, Pitt
Blake Saito, Brown
Ryan Burgos, Edinboro
Grigor Cholakyan, Stanford
Connor Harer, Rutgers
Outside Looking in: Jason Kraisser-Illinois, Sonny Santiago-North Carolina, Legend Lamer-Cal Poly, Kaleb Burgess-Kent State, Eric Almarinez-SIUE, Jonathan Ley-Navy, Colton Washleski-Rider, Nick Stampoulos-Lock Haven

165-
Drake Rhodes, South Dakota State
Will Miller, Appalachian State
Evan Maag, George Mason
Gunner Filipowicz, Army
Outside Looking in: Anthony White- Rutgers, Stoney Buell-Purdue, Clayton Ulrey- Northern Colorado, Tyler Lillard-Indiana, Aidan Wallace-Duke, Carter Baer-Binghampton, Dylan Elmore-Navy, Luca Wick-Cal Poly

174-
Lorenzo Norman, Stanford
Nick Incontrera, Penn
Jackson Turley, Rutgers
Mykles Takata, Bucknell
Outside Looking in: Brody Conley-West Virginia, Lucas Uliano-App St, Derek Gilcher-Indiana, Michael Wilson-Rider, John Worthing-Clarion, 

184-
Jaden Bullock, Michigan
Dennis Robin, West Virginia
Colin Fegley, Lock Haven
Colton Hawks, Missouri
Daschle Lamer-Cal Poly
Outside Looking in: TJ Stewart, Virginia Tech, Ryder Rogotzke-Ohio State, Gerrit Nenjinhuis- Cal St Bakersfield, Brock Delsignore-Little Rock, Jeremy Olszko-Ohio,

197-
Joey Novak, Wyoming
Tucker Hogan, Lock Haven
Ben Vanadia, Purdue
Wolfgang Frable, Army
Outside Looking in: Carson Floyd - App State, Brian Burburjia - Air Force, Cade Lautt - North Carolina, Luke Cochran - Central Michigan, Nate Schon - Iowa State, 

285-
Isaac Trumble, NC State
Yaraslau Slavakouski, Rutgers
Lance Runyon, Northern Iowa
Daniel Herrera, Iowa State
Outside Looking in: Juan Mora - Oklahoma, Seth Nitzel - Missouri, Xavier Doolin - Morgan State, Dalton Mayer - Bellermine, James Blackman- George Mason, Alex Semenenko - Brown, 

You can compare them to the actual wildcards now.  Big miss at 157.  CJ Hamblin got a wildcard.

[Idaho]

7 minutes ago, Warm Up Champ said:

You can compare them to the actual wildcards now.  Big miss at 157.  CJ Hamblin got a wildcard.

CJ absolutely deserved a spot there as we agree  ... wins over several guys who qualified, #21 in coaches poll, 1 spot below qualification at conference, bonus point for cool factor. 

[Warm Up Champ]

Stanford did well with the at-large bids.  4 wrestlers!

[jdalu75]

15 minutes ago, Idaho said:

https://www.ncaa.com/news/wrestling/article/2025-03-11/ncaa-announces-large-selections-2025-division-i-wrestling-championships

In case you didn't see it in the other thread. 

Diego Sotelo of Harvard, alternate at 125, is in the Ivy League.

[jdalu75]

1 minute ago, Warm Up Champ said:

Stanford did well with the at-large bids.  4 wrestlers!

Army had three.

On the other hand, Drexel had two EIWA runners-up who didn't get at-larges.

[Idaho]

6 minutes ago, Warm Up Champ said:

Stanford did well with the at-large bids.  4 wrestlers!

Kind of surprised that the ACC didn't get 4 at 133 ... also surprised Norman didn't qualify through the tourney. 

[Idaho]

Anybody know which coaches voted on which weights in the final coaches ranking? 

[Wrestleknownothing]

8 minutes ago, Idaho said:

Anybody know which coaches voted on which weights in the final coaches ranking? 

https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/championships/sports/wrestling/d1/men/2024-25D1MWR_CoachesRankingRoster.pdf

[killdozer]

42 minutes ago, Warm Up Champ said:

You can compare them to the actual wildcards now.  Big miss at 157.  CJ Hamblin got a wildcard.

I agree. I considered him. But I thought his limited schedule would hold him back. I was wrong. (as I said 20% of the time)

[RandolphTJones]

Who are the top names to not qualify?

[Nightcrawler]

https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/championships/sports/wrestling/d1/men/D1MWR_SelectionsProcess.pdf
 

Anyone else find this to appear to be really clear, but then just more confusing as you go? I looked through yesterday to see who might make it in at some weights, and it just legitimately got trickier as I went. 
For example, page 8 lists the criteria and it seems clear. Except the “hey wait, what about people with no head to head matches? Is 25% of their criteria at zero?”

Then, 9 & 10 give solid clarifying information, and page 11 gives like, a solid breakdown of how points get allocated. Then page 12 is unrelated, and page 13 gives examples of a round robin style comparison of wrestlers A, B, and C and how they earn or don’t earn points.

Can anyone shed more light on this process? From pages 11 and 13 I’m lead to believe they basically do a massive round robin of all the people that could be up for a spot, but that seems unrealistic. Really unrealistic. 

I don’t take issue with the vast majority of choices, but I want to try to see what I’m missing on some of them. Or even why some that I predicted came out to be correct. 

Thanks in advance to anyone. And uh, if you start going through this, have headache meds handy. 

[Mike]

I'm surprised Conner Harer didn't earn a spot or was at least the alternate at 157. He finished 9th in the Big Ten (one away from an AQ, beat Stampoulos (the alternate), and split against Chumbley at the Big Ten Tournament but beat him in the finals oft he 9th place bracket.

Having Stampoulos over him makes little sense IMO