Injury Time exception?

[whaletail]

When a wrestler requires injury time after an exchange that ends in a potentially dangerous call, should his opponent still get choice for the restart?

This heavily impacted the Dean Petersen/Caleb Smith 125lb Big10 semifinal, as Smith was able to choose bottom during SV. 

During the prior exchange, both wrestlers' knees were loaded against the joint during a neutral scramble. When the ref eventually called PD, Petersen immediately grabbed his knee, and appeared to be screaming in pain.  

I think it's at least worth the rules committee's time to review the issue.

[Wrestleknownothing]

Just now, whaletail said:

When a wrestler requires injury time after an exchange that ends in a potentially dangerous call, should his opponent still get choice for the restart?

This heavily impacted the Dean Petersen/Caleb Smith 125lb Big10 semifinal, as Smith was able to choose bottom during SV. 

During the prior exchange, both wrestlers' knees were loaded against the joint during a neutral scramble. When the ref eventually called PD, Petersen immediately grabbed his knee, and appeared to be screaming in pain.  

I think it's at least worth the rules committee's time to review the issue.

Agreed

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

9 minutes ago, whaletail said:

When a wrestler requires injury time after an exchange that ends in a potentially dangerous call, should his opponent still get choice for the restart?

This heavily impacted the Dean Petersen/Caleb Smith 125lb Big10 semifinal, as Smith was able to choose bottom during SV. 

During the prior exchange, both wrestlers' knees were loaded against the joint during a neutral scramble. When the ref eventually called PD, Petersen immediately grabbed his knee, and appeared to be screaming in pain.  

I think it's at least worth the rules committee's time to review the issue.

Of course they can look at it, but making this change would lead to tremendous abuse.  For instance:  What if you put yourself in the dangerous position?  What if the wrestler just wants a break and doesn't want to be penalized?

[PortaJohn]

3 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

What if the wrestler just wants a break and doesn't want to be penalized?

This is the the slippery slope.  Guy in on a shot.  Defensive wrestler losing the position.  Fakes an injury.  Restart

Edited Monday at 04:01 PM by PortaJohn

[Husker_Du]

^^^ this already happens to force PDs

[PortaJohn]

1 minute ago, Husker_Du said:

^^^ this already happens to force PDs

Great point.  Quite a few wrestlers have mastered this 

[whaletail]

6 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Of course they can look at it, but making this change would lead to tremendous abuse.  For instance:  What if you put yourself in the dangerous position?  What if the wrestler just wants a break and doesn't want to be penalized?

Fair point, and I don't think refs can even begin to parse organic exchanges from the contrived.

Although I suspect Petersen got screwed by the rule, not every problem has a solution, and this one's at least a rarity.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

15 minutes ago, whaletail said:

Fair point, and I don't think refs can even begin to parse organic exchanges from the contrived.

Although I suspect Petersen got screwed by the rule, not every problem has a solution, and this one's at least a rarity.

Yes.  I agree.  I just had to look at the situation having been a coach and athlete and now a ref.  How can the situation be gamed?

[Gene Mills Fan]

44 minutes ago, whaletail said:

When a wrestler requires injury time after an exchange that ends in a potentially dangerous call, should his opponent still get choice for the restart?

This heavily impacted the Dean Petersen/Caleb Smith 125lb Big10 semifinal, as Smith was able to choose bottom during SV. 

During the prior exchange, both wrestlers' knees were loaded against the joint during a neutral scramble. When the ref eventually called PD, Petersen immediately grabbed his knee, and appeared to be screaming in pain.  

I think it's at least worth the rules committee's time to review the issue.

I see your point only that would be starting another timely review

[Lordnelson]

The answer to rules open to interpretation/misinterpretation is never more rules or caveats to the rules.

Officials have a difficult time in many of these positions judging PD vs "the kid put himself there" and letting it play out.  I wish High School would adopt the 1st injury time resulting in opponent choice rule. It literally plays no role in "athlete safety" to allow an opponent a "free" injury time that almost always results in:

a. the athlete returning to wrestle

b. coordinated pit stop to catch a breath, get coaching

 

**Really it's about coaching and encouraging your athlete not to put themselves in those positions.

Edited Monday at 04:38 PM by Lordnelson