RV will love this regarding Soical Security

[mspart]

Musk has found 31 million people eon the social security rolls that are over 110 years old.  

 

https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/feb/17/are-150-year-old-americans-receiving-social-securi/

This website tries to explain this all away.   But the fact remains that the SS database is not correct and it should be more correct.   The listing seen above is not complete.  It lists one person between 240-249 years old, and 1 person 360-369 years old.   There is something seriously wrong with this.   So this is a great find that RV should love.  

I'm not saying all these people get payments, but the article does say:

Between fiscal years 2015 and 2022, which includes Trump’s first presidency, the Social Security Administration sent almost $71.8 billion in improper payments, according to a July 2024 agency inspector general report. The inspector general’s office called improper payments "a longstanding challenge."

A November 2021 inspector general’s report found $298 million in payments after death to some 24,000 beneficiaries. (About $84 million was returned, the report said.)

These are not huge numbers, but it sis concerning that so many people are on the rolls that are obviously dead.  It will be interesting to see more on this.   Hopefully they are just listed but not actively being paid.  Assuming an average $2000/month per old person, that's around 63Billion that could be saved.   Hopefully that is not the case but that is significant. 

mspart

 

 

  

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, mspart said:

Musk has found 31 million people eon the social security rolls that are over 110 years old.  

 

https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/feb/17/are-150-year-old-americans-receiving-social-securi/

This website tries to explain this all away.   But the fact remains that the SS database is not correct and it should be more correct.   The listing seen above is not complete.  It lists one person between 240-249 years old, and 1 person 360-369 years old.   There is something seriously wrong with this.   So this is a great find that RV should love.  

I'm not saying all these people get payments, but the article does say:

Between fiscal years 2015 and 2022, which includes Trump’s first presidency, the Social Security Administration sent almost $71.8 billion in improper payments, according to a July 2024 agency inspector general report. The inspector general’s office called improper payments "a longstanding challenge."

A November 2021 inspector general’s report found $298 million in payments after death to some 24,000 beneficiaries. (About $84 million was returned, the report said.)

These are not huge numbers, but it sis concerning that so many people are on the rolls that are obviously dead.  It will be interesting to see more on this.   Hopefully they are just listed but not actively being paid.  Assuming an average $2000/month per old person, that's around 63Billion that could be saved.   Hopefully that is not the case but that is significant. 

mspart

 

 

  

The level of gross incompetence… bordering  on criminal neglect is crazy if this stuff is true.  As an IT professional I can’t explain how nonsensical this is.  Given Elon is a sql expert he prolly found this shyte easily.   
 

select age, count(*) from payments where payment > 0 group by age

order by count(*) desc;

 

 

[red viking]

We already knew this was a problem

[mspart]

Oh, you knew there were 160 year olds on the SS rolls?   And a 300 year old?   You didn't know until this was discovered.  I'm really surprised, I thought you would be overjoyed that they are on to SS now.   Wonders never cease.

mspart 

[red viking]

11 minutes ago, mspart said:

Oh, you knew there were 160 year olds on the SS rolls?   And a 300 year old?   You didn't know until this was discovered.  I'm really surprised, I thought you would be overjoyed that they are on to SS now.   Wonders never cease.

mspart 

We all knew there was social security (and medicare) fraud on an individual level. That fraud should be eliminated to the extent practicable. We are also all in agreement with that. I think we still are. 

Please show me something new and significant. 

I agree that's nice if we can wipe out the payments for a few 160 year olds but how many of them are there (how many did he really find) and how much is this really going to save? Again, we're talking fractions of fractions of fractions of single penny if the entire federal budget is a dollar. 

Now, if we can take down corporations that are fraudulently getting tens of billions of dollars each (most likely as part of the Pentagon budget), then I'd be more enthusiastic. That's a much lower priority for DOGE for convenient reasons, if its even something they want to look for. 

Meanwhile, we'll actually increase overall fraud with the laying off of federal workers that oversee the money going out, including IRS agents that make sure people aren't committing fraud on their taxes. 

 

Edited Tuesday at 08:58 PM by red viking

[mspart]

It's not just liberal women who are not happy.   Just take the win RV.   It'll be good for you. 

mspart

[red viking]

4 minutes ago, mspart said:

It's not just liberal women who are not happy.   Just take the win RV.   It'll be good for you. 

mspart

I'd like to see some real data on how much fraud he's found. Still waiting....

[Scouts Honor]

1 hour ago, red viking said:

We already knew this was a problem

but there is no fraud or waste...

[Scouts Honor]

still can't find the fraud 

 

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5 hours ago, mspart said:

Musk has found 31 million people eon the social security rolls that are over 110 years old.  

 

Hopefully they are just listed but not actively being paid. 

 

 

  

Trump thinks they are