Why designating cartels as terrorist organizations or using the military to go after them in Mexico will fail

[red viking]

Just now, JimmySpeaks said:

RV: cartels aren’t really gangs like in the movies.  And atent really any rich cartel leaders it’s just politicians. 

Another lie. I'm saying the politicians are the most powerful people involved in the drug market. It's a very corrupt country. They take payoffs, like trumptard does, and decide who the big sellers can be. 

[JimmySpeaks]

1 minute ago, red viking said:

Another lie. I'm saying the politicians are the most powerful people involved in the drug market. It's a very corrupt country. They take payoffs, like trumptard does, and decide who the big sellers can be. 

The cartel leaders control  the politicians.  With boat fulls of money. Damn you’re dumb. 

Edited yesterday at 01:28 AM by JimmySpeaks

[red viking]

Just now, JimmySpeaks said:

The cartel leaders controls the politicians.  With boat fulls of money. Damn you’re dumb. 

That's how it is in the movies. In reality, the "drug lords" arent as wealthy as your Hollywood movies portray. They both help each other but the politicians are at the top. Read up, do some research. 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

2 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

The cartel leaders control  the politicians.  With boat fulls of money. Damn you’re dumb. 

Yes, the politicians rule at the whims of the cartel.  

[JimmySpeaks]

Just now, red viking said:

That's how it is in the movies. In reality, the "drug lords" arent as wealthy as your Hollywood movies portray. They both help each other but the politicians are at the top. Read up, do some research. 

I have already.  It’s not the politicians paying the drug lords.  Prove me wrong 

[JimmySpeaks]

3 minutes ago, red viking said:

That's how it is in the movies. In reality, the "drug lords" arent as wealthy as your Hollywood movies portray. They both help each other but the politicians are at the top. Read up, do some research. 

https://www.google.com/search?q=are+cartel+leaders+rich&rlz=1C9BKJA_enUS1057US1057&oq=are+cartel+leaders+&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqCAgBEAAYFhgeMgYIABBFGDkyCAgBEAAYFhgeMggIAhAAGBYYHjIICAMQABgWGB4yCAgEEAAYFhgeMggIBRAAGBYYHjIICAYQABgWGB4yCAgHEAAYFhgeMggICBAAGBYYHjIICAkQABgWGB7SAQg2Nzg4ajBqN6gCGrACAeIDBBgBIF_xBQB0_JL7OpDO8QUAdPyS-zqQzg&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
 

here’s another one making you look sTUpID 

[red viking]

1 minute ago, JimmySpeaks said:

I have already.  It’s not the politicians paying the drug lords.  Prove me wrong 

You're a true idiot. Often times the person getting paid has more power and money than the payer. 

[ionel]

1 minute ago, JimmySpeaks said:

I have already.  It’s not the politicians paying the drug lords.  Prove me wrong 

Do you have PhD in Drug Lordary?  

[JimmySpeaks]

5 minutes ago, red viking said:

You're a true idiot. Often times the person getting paid has more power and money than the payer. 

You can’t really be that dumb.  A title doesn’t mean you have more power. If you’re on their payroll they have the power.  They own you. 

Edited yesterday at 01:39 AM by JimmySpeaks

[red viking]

Just now, ionel said:

Do you have PhD in Drug Lordary?  

No PhD but still more educated than almost all the dumb wingers like Jimmy. 

[JimmySpeaks]

1 minute ago, ionel said:

Do you have PhD in Drug Lordary?  

Diploma

[JimmySpeaks]

Just now, red viking said:

No PhD but still more educated than almost all the dumb wingers like Jimmy. 

You’re the dumbest educated person on the planet then. 

[Caveira]

12 minutes ago, red viking said:

Another lie. I'm saying the politicians are the most powerful people involved in the drug market. It's a very corrupt country. They take payoffs, like trumptard does, and decide who the big sellers can be. 

Kick it all up to the big guy 

[red viking]

9 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Kick it all up to the big guy 

Yah. In all seriousness, who exactly is most powerful depends on specific people and how u define it (politicians can easily meet that criteria), but my overall point is that there are many many more people in the country profiting than the movies portray and the drug lords themselves aren't even remotely close to being as wealthy as movies show either. If they don't pay the right people off, they're at very high risk of getting taken down by the law enf. 

[Caveira]

8 minutes ago, red viking said:

Yah. In all seriousness, who exactly is most powerful depends on specific people and how u define it (politicians can easily meet that criteria), but my overall point is that there are many many more people in the country profiting than the movies portray and the drug lords themselves aren't even remotely close to being as wealthy as movies show either. If they don't pay the right people off, they're at very high risk of getting taken down by the law enf. 

I’ve seen narcos.  Every season.   3 times, so I’m like a bonified expert 

you have the propensity to just let shit be shit.  Shirty crime in big cities.  Leave it alone.  Cartels are awful. Leave it alone.  Your like the guy who always quits In PCU.   

Edited yesterday at 02:04 AM by Caveira

[red viking]

27 minutes ago, Caveira said:

I’ve seen narcos.  Every season.   3 times, so I’m like a bonified expert 

you have the propensity to just let shit be shit.  Shirty crime in big cities.  Leave it alone.  Cartels are awful. Leave it alone.  Your like the guy who always quits In PCU.   

I like to stay in my lane. Control what I can control and let other people control their own back yard. It's a good general rule to live by 

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, red viking said:

I like to stay in my lane. Control what I can control and let other people control their own back yard. It's a good general rule to live by 

Ya.  Let’s let the cartels run gang busters on the world.  Their power and corruption surely won’t spread.  
 

Just leave em alone maybe they will turn out to be misunderstood and really good guys.    All that rapey rapey and killing of everyone who opposes them was just a phase.   I bet they just need therapy and a few weeks of pto and some good good rest. 
 

They will let their ties to illegal gang immigration and infiltrating us cities go away too.  Probably right?

[red viking]

9 hours ago, Caveira said:

Ya.  Let’s let the cartels run gang busters on the world.  Their power and corruption surely won’t spread.  
 

Just leave em alone maybe they will turn out to be misunderstood and really good guys.    All that rapey rapey and killing of everyone who opposes them was just a phase.   I bet they just need therapy and a few weeks of pto and some good good rest. 
 

They will let their ties to illegal gang immigration and infiltrating us cities go away too.  Probably right?

You need to wake up and get in the real world. If there's demand, the drugs will find it. You'll never come close to stopping that. Key is to curtail demand for hard drugs and legalize the soft ones. Marijuana was a great start. 

[uncle bernard]

This hit on the drug boat is a good political litmus test.

Do you think it's okay for the government to extrajudicially assassinate criminals?

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

8 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

This hit on the drug boat is a good political litmus test.

Do you think it's okay for the government to extrajudicially assassinate criminals?

Obama thought it was ok to extrajudicially assassinate American citizens.  Not a lot of complaints about that...

[uncle bernard]

1 minute ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Obama thought it was ok to extrajudicially assassinate American citizens.  Not a lot of complaints about that...

The (actual, not establishment Democrat) Left was very consistent in condemning that strike, in addition to the rest of the drone program that targeted non-American citizens.

But that's an evasion. Answer the question.

[JimmySpeaks]

38 minutes ago, red viking said:

You need to wake up and get in the real world. If there's demand, the drugs will find it. You'll never come close to stopping that. Key is to curtail demand for hard drugs and legalize the soft ones. Marijuana was a great start. 

So you’re ok with making it easier to bring drugs into the country instead of harder?  Sounds like a good argument for never touching guns.  I mean if some nut job wants to be a school shooter he’/she is going find a way to get a gun to do it.  Legally or illegally.  Speaking of needing to wake up.  If only you could curtail nut jobs in our ever expanding wokester world huh? 

[JimmySpeaks]

18 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

The (actual, not establishment Democrat) Left was very consistent in condemning that strike, in addition to the rest of the drone program that targeted non-American citizens.

But that's an evasion. Answer the question.

Hey it’s the “I support Hamas over Israel and lie about it “ person.  You owe me money. Pay up. 

[JimmySpeaks]

31 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

This hit on the drug boat is a good political litmus test.

Do you think it's okay for the government to extrajudicially assassinate criminals?

You’re against stopping foreign drug cartels from pushing drugs into our country ?  Why? 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

39 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

The (actual, not establishment Democrat) Left was very consistent in condemning that strike, in addition to the rest of the drone program that targeted non-American citizens.

But that's an evasion. Answer the question.

It is not an evasion.  It is more like whataboutism lol

Did you post on this board (or it's predecessor) that you condemned  such an attack?  Or did you not bother?