I tried to tell you....but credit to Trump

[PortaJohn]

1 hour ago, uncle bernard said:

1) That's not why British Intelligence performed the coup. They did it because Iran was attempting to nationalize its oil industry which was then controlled by BP. That's the bottom line.

2) Yes, the Brits led the operation, but the CIA was heavily involved and it became the model for the next 30 years of coups.

3) None of what you said addresses the historical fact that Iranian coup was the first domino in the Islamic Revolution. Whether the Brits or US is more responsible for that 1 event is irrelevant. We are continuing the imperial project in the region.

1)  Where did I refute this?  Fact,  British intelligence convinced the US the Soviets were making inroads

2) Where did I refute this?  Did the British not convince the US the Soviets were making significant inroads?

3) The coup was not the first domino.  The history of Iran, like all history, was far messier than just pointing to one moment as the cause.  Which leads me to my final point.  No one, and I mean no one actually has a full understanding of why we have this current mess.  Israel, the PLO, Iran, the US, Britain all have made mistakes.  But to assign blame to one party is beneath intelligence 

[uncle bernard]

6 hours ago, PortaJohn said:

1)  Where did I refute this?  Fact,  British intelligence convinced the US the Soviets were making inroads

2) Where did I refute this?  Did the British not convince the US the Soviets were making significant inroads?

3) The coup was not the first domino.  The history of Iran, like all history, was far messier than just pointing to one moment as the cause.  Which leads me to my final point.  No one, and I mean no one actually has a full understanding of why we have this current mess.  Israel, the PLO, Iran, the US, Britain all have made mistakes.  But to assign blame to one party is beneath intelligence 

I didn’t assign blame to one party. I said we should be responsible for our own mistakes because we have the power to fix them moving forward. 

[Husker_Du]

19 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

Even in your attempted gotcha, you fall on your face lol.

Hamas only controls Gaza. The PLO is internationally recognized representative of Palestine. They recognized Israel as a state back in the 90s during the Oslo Accords.

um, i was referring to the PLO.

now tell us what their mission is. 

[uncle bernard]

6 hours ago, Husker_Du said:

um, i was referring to the PLO.

now tell us what their mission is. 

The PLO endorsed the two state solution back in the early 80s. Their mission to achieve statehood for Palestine alongside Israel and they primarily pursue that through diplomatic strategy (which is why even Israel recognizes them as a legitimate representative of Palestine).