Big Ten vs Penn State

[CGriff]

Who would win this hypothetical dual?

125: Ramos vs Lilledahl

133: Byrd/Ayala vs Davis

141: Mendez vs Bartlett

149: Parco/Lovett vs Van Ness

157: Taylor/Gallagher vs Kasak

165: Caliendo vs Mesenbrink

174: Welsh/Kharchla/Kennedy vs Haines

184: McEnelly vs Starocci

197: Buchanan/Cardenas vs Barr

285: Gable vs Kerk

[Gene Mills Fan]

125: Ramos vs Lilledahl       BIG 3 PSU 0

133: Byrd/Ayala vs Davis      BIG 3 PSU 0

141: Mendez vs Bartlett       BIG 3 PSU 0           ****

149: Parco/Lovett vs Van Ness     BIG 3 PSU 0      ****

157: Taylor/Gallagher vs Kasak       ( TAYLOR/TEEMER) BIG 3 PSU 0    ****

165: Caliendo vs Mesenbrink      BIG 0  PSU 5

174: Welsh/Kharchla/Kennedy vs Haines   BIG 0 PSU 3

184: McEnelly vs Starocci   BIG 0 PSU 3

197: Buchanan/Cardenas vs Barr    BIG 3 PSU 0

285: Gable vs Kerk        BIG 3 PSU 0

**** 52% T0 48% 

BIG 21   PSU 11

This would be at Big ten time; if its the NCAA's then PSU over performs and wins 49,57 and wins

Edited yesterday at 08:00 PM by Gene Mills Fan

[Mr. PeanutButter]

I have PSU taking 49, 57, 65 (bonus), 74, and 84 for a 16-15 edge. Unfortunately, I can envision them also  winning 125 and 141 within reason. Need to see more from 197. I suppose Davis *could* win at 133 but he is injured and is almost as boring as Bartlett so I can't pick him even as a joke.

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

125: Ramos vs Lilledahl - Ramos FALL

133: Byrd/Ayala vs Davis - Bird/Ayala DEC

141: Mendez vs Bartlett - Mendez DEC

149: Parco/Lovett vs Van Ness - Van Ness DEC

157: Taylor/Gallagher vs Kasak - Kasak DEC

165: Caliendo vs Mesenbrink - Mesenbrink DEC

174: Welsh/Kharchla/Kennedy vs Haines - Welsh DEC

184: McEnelly vs Starocci - Starroci DEC

197: Buchanan/Cardenas vs Barr - Buchanan DEC

285: Gable vs Kerk - Gable DEC

 

It would be a blowout for the Big 10 team who would win 6 out of 10 matches.

[Pinnacle]

11 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

I have PSU taking 49, 57, 65 (bonus), 74, and 84 for a 16-15 edge. Unfortunately, I can envision them also  winning 125 and 141 within reason. Need to see more from 197. I suppose Davis *could* win at 133 but he is injured and is almost as boring as Bartlett so I can't pick him even as a joke.

Spot Davis the 4 years he needs to begin to even look like an adult and he wins easy. 

[Hammerlock3]

this topic has happened before....and there is a tournament actually scheduled where it happens.

[666]

47 minutes ago, CGriff said:

Who would win this hypothetical dual?

125: Ramos vs Lilledahl

133: Byrd/Ayala vs Davis

141: Mendez vs Bartlett

149: Parco/Lovett vs Van Ness

157: Taylor/Gallagher vs Kasak

165: Caliendo vs Mesenbrink

174: Welsh/Kharchla/Kennedy vs Haines

184: McEnelly vs Starocci

197: Buchanan/Cardenas vs Barr

285: Gable vs Kerk

Ramos

Ayala

Mendez

Van Ness

Kasak

Mesenbrink

Haines

Starocci

Barr

Gable

[Hammerlock3]

15 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

125: Ramos vs Lilledahl - Ramos FALL

133: Byrd/Ayala vs Davis - Bird/Ayala DEC

141: Mendez vs Bartlett - Mendez DEC

149: Parco/Lovett vs Van Ness - Van Ness DEC

157: Taylor/Gallagher vs Kasak - Kasak DEC

165: Caliendo vs Mesenbrink - Mesenbrink DEC

174: Welsh/Kharchla/Kennedy vs Haines - Welsh DEC

184: McEnelly vs Starocci - Starroci DEC

197: Buchanan/Cardenas vs Barr - Buchanan DEC

285: Gable vs Kerk - Gable DEC

 

It would be a blowout for the Big 10 team who would win 6 out of 10 matches.

Cinnabon now running from his previous Davis predictions....

[fishbane]

This question is functionally similar to "How many Big Ten Champs will Penn State have?"  Especially since you have multiple wrestlers listed for the Big Ten team at some weights.

Last year they had 5 champs, with Starocci not wrestling.  Four of them and Starocci return.  Still maybe it's more interesting than last year with Gable back, since he is likely to block Kerkvliet from repeating.  Probably a very similar team performance.  I'll say 5 champs 149-184 possibly a 6th at 197.  PSU has more bonus point potential and takes the dual on bonus.  Far less dominant than 1981-1986 Iowa when they had at least 7 champs/season and as many as 9 in 1983.  Seven champs all but guarantees a dual victory.

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

1 hour ago, Hammerlock3 said:

Cinnabon now running from his previous Davis predictions....

?  What did I predict about Davis?

[1032004]

1 hour ago, fishbane said:

This question is functionally similar to "How many Big Ten Champs will Penn State have?"  Especially since you have multiple wrestlers listed for the Big Ten team at some weights.

Last year they had 5 champs, with Starocci not wrestling.  Four of them and Starocci return.  Still maybe it's more interesting than last year with Gable back, since he is likely to block Kerkvliet from repeating.  Probably a very similar team performance.  I'll say 5 champs 149-184 possibly a 6th at 197.  PSU has more bonus point potential and takes the dual on bonus.  Far less dominant than 1981-1986 Iowa when they had at least 7 champs/season and as many as 9 in 1983.  Seven champs all but guarantees a dual victory.

I think the more relevant question is who has the higher finisher at NCAA’s.

But yeah, someone already made this thread in December or so

[peanut]

2 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said:

this topic has happened before....and there is a tournament actually scheduled where it happens.

In a dual meet, bonus points could potentially determine the outcome.

[PortaJohn]

2 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said:

this topic has happened before....and there is a tournament actually scheduled where it happens.

We have 10 more of this thread topic  to go.

Edited 22 hours ago by PortaJohn

[fishbane]

44 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I think the more relevant question is who has the higher finisher at NCAA’s.

But yeah, someone already made this thread in December or so

Perhaps, but is wouldn't change the answer much in 2024.  PSU had the highest NCAA medalist from the conference at 6 weights.  In Iowa's record setting 1983 season they had 9 Big Ten champs and the highest NCAA placement from the conference at 9 weights.  If you expand the conference to include all 2024 members then Iowa only had the highest placer at 8 weights.

Could one of the 5-champ teams win a dual against the rest of the NCAA?