TikTok Ban

[Danny Deck]

Do we think Trump will try to rescind this or just grant continuances and never enforce it?

 

 

[Caveira]

It won’t be going anywhere brother.  Don’t you worry 

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTY4L9Bss/

[Danny Deck]

I'm not downloading that app and it won't let me watch in the browser anymore so all of your links are useless on me.

I just find the actual question of if he will or won't follow through on the ban he supported before Jeff Yass gave him money and told him TikTok was good actually.

[Wrestleknownothing]

10 minutes ago, Danny Deck said:

I'm not downloading that app and it won't let me watch in the browser anymore so all of your links are useless on me.

I just find the actual question of if he will or won't follow through on the ban he supported before Jeff Yass gave him money and told him TikTok was good actually.

There is your answer.

[Caveira]

On 12/17/2024 at 4:11 PM, Danny Deck said:

Do we think Trump will try to rescind this or just grant continuances and never enforce it?

 

 

The link to the crazy Chinese communist tik tok that found this info for me initially 

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTYGT31D9/

Edited December 27, 2024 by Caveira

[Tripnsweep]

On 12/17/2024 at 6:58 PM, Caveira said:

It won’t be going anywhere brother.  Don’t you worry 

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTY4L9Bss/

Oh no. Where will you get your news from since you can't read beyond a 5th grade level. 

[Caveira]

3 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

Oh no. Where will you get your news from since you can't read beyond a 5th grade level. 

I left the tweet so you could read it.  At whatever grade level you read at.   At the risk of being redundant   The tweet is the thing just above the tik tok link.   It has words and a pic of one of your favorite politicians.   Some people call it x now.    

it seems the tok isn’t going anywhere.  

[RockLobster]

4 hours ago, Caveira said:

it seems the tok isn’t going anywhere.  

Don't celebrate too soon, my Chinese brother. This isn't anywhere close to over.

[Caveira]

33 minutes ago, RockLobster said:

Don't celebrate too soon, my Chinese brother. This isn't anywhere close to over.

You must have interesting insider info.  Post all the juicy details.  

[Tripnsweep]

5 hours ago, Caveira said:

I left the tweet so you could read it.  At whatever grade level you read at.   At the risk of being redundant   The tweet is the thing just above the tik tok link.   It has words and a pic of one of your favorite politicians.   Some people call it x now.    

it seems the tok isn’t going anywhere.  

[RockLobster]

2 minutes ago, Caveira said:

You must have interesting insider info.  Post all the juicy details.  

Consider a puzzle for Christmas... just for you. Dig around the internet and you'll find it. You're welcome.

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, RockLobster said:

Consider a puzzle for Christmas... just for you. Dig around the internet and you'll find it. You're welcome.

I do puzzles every day.  Your turn.  Contribute.  Post what you know brother.  We all know you have the details.  

[RockLobster]

2 minutes ago, Caveira said:

I do puzzles every day.  Your turn.  Contribute.  Post what you know brother.  We all know you have the details.  

Keep going, my Chinese brother. Keep going. Your statement about TIkTok not going anywhere - you have yet to reveal the solution to that puzzle.

Or maybe you're just all talk. That seems more likely.

Your post follows mine by 2 minutes... C'mon bro. You're not even trying. This isn't a 2 minute puzzle.

Put some elbow grease into it. Check back with me in the next few days. This won't be easy.

[Danny Deck]

I'm curious what "political means" he thinks are available to him to resolve this. The law mandating the sale passed with a veto proof majority on a bipartisan basis. Do we think the makeup of each house changed enough or that the Republicans remain scared enough of him to change their position? 

It seems to me his best bet to get the law off the books would be to hope the Supreme Court is receptive to the arguments the lower courts have not been. Otherwise, it's just kicking the can down the road on enforcement.

[Danny Deck]

Not much of a surprise in the headline, TikTok says it will abide by the law if the law isn't struck down or enforcement stayed. 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tiktok-trial-ban-appeal-bytedance/

[Danny Deck]

Looking like the Supreme Court will uphold the law. 

• Arguing on behalf of TikTok: Noel Francisco, contended that the law burdens TikTok’s speech, so the First Amendment applies. The government “has no valid interest in preventing foreign propaganda” and cannot constitutionally try to keep Americans from being “persuaded by Chinese misinformation,” he said. That is targeting speech, which the First Amendment does not permit, he added.

• Arguing on behalf of the government: Elizabeth B. Prelogar, the solicitor general, countered that the act does not violate the First Amendment. “All of the same speech that’s happening on TikTok could happen post-divestiture,” she said, adding, “All the act is doing is trying to surgically remove the ability of foreign adversary nation to get our data and to be able to exercise control over the platform.”

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/01/10/us/tiktok-ban-supreme-court

[Le duke]

Not much of a surprise in the headline, TikTok says it will abide by the law if the law isn't struck down or enforcement stayed. 
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tiktok-trial-ban-appeal-bytedance/

In a surprise to no one, TikTok would rather vanish like a fart in the wind instead of coming under non-CCP control.


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[Le duke]

Looking like the Supreme Court will uphold the law. 

• Arguing on behalf of TikTok: Noel Francisco, contended that the law burdens TikTok’s speech, so the First Amendment applies. The government “has no valid interest in preventing foreign propaganda” and cannot constitutionally try to keep Americans from being “persuaded by Chinese misinformation,” he said. That is targeting speech, which the First Amendment does not permit, he added.

• Arguing on behalf of the government: Elizabeth B. Prelogar, the solicitor general, countered that the act does not violate the First Amendment. “All of the same speech that’s happening on TikTok could happen post-divestiture,” she said, adding, “All the act is doing is trying to surgically remove the ability of foreign adversary nation to get our data and to be able to exercise control over the platform.”

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/01/10/us/tiktok-ban-supreme-court

Noel Francisco is the former Solicitor General of the United States.

I can’t believe that he actually argued that the US doesn’t have a compelling argument to prevent the spread of Chinese propaganda (or the surveillance of US citizens by them).

I get that he’s in private practice now, but dude, come on.


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[Caveira]

8 minutes ago, Le duke said:

Noel Francisco is the former Solicitor General of the United States.

I can’t believe that he actually argued that the US doesn’t have a compelling argument to prevent the spread of Chinese propaganda (or the surveillance of US citizens by them).

I get that he’s in private practice now, but dude, come on.


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I would like to see said propaganda.  Where is it?

it’s twerking, chess, music, vids from us news outlets.    It’s basically instagram…. Facebook…. YouTube…. Or whatever.   

from said twerking videos, What specifically are the Chinese “surveilling”?

[Danny Deck]

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[WrestlingRasta]

I can’t fathom why any grown half way intelligent folk would use tik tok.  I have three kids in that 18-24 year range and all three have even shed it since it shifted from funny lip sync videos. 

[Caveira]

1 hour ago, WrestlingRasta said:

I can’t fathom why any grown half way intelligent folk would use tik tok.  I have three kids in that 18-24 year range and all three have even shed it since it shifted from funny lip sync videos. 

There are still dance vids on TikTok.   I watch chess vids food vids and other informative wrestling vids.  Here are two dance vids.  I think y’all will like the second one much better.  Let me know what you think 

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTYEQ86cN/

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTYEQdGT5/

[WrestlingRasta]

14 minutes ago, Caveira said:

There are still dance vids on TikTok.   I watch chess vids food vids and other informative wrestling vids.  Here are two dance vids.  I think y’all will like the second one much better.  Let me know what you think 

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTYEQ86cN/

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTYEQdGT5/

I don’t have it and not interested in opening TikTok, but thank you. 

[RockLobster]

12 hours ago, Caveira said:

There are still dance vids on TikTok.   I watch chess vids food vids and other informative wrestling vids.  Here are two dance vids.  I think y’all will like the second one much better.  Let me know what you think 

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTYEQ86cN/

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTYEQdGT5/

You're an idiot, again. And "I think y'all will like" here is the worst effort at click bait of all time.

China needs to replace you with another paid-for bit**.

Which is good, because your BS is so incredibly bad, that you really shouldn't be allowed here.

You contribute nothing.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

I don't care who is in power in the US.  I have been anti-CCP data collection from the start and will continue to do so.  Let Tik Tok users practice free speech, but without CCP involvement.