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So which is it? We should not believe their claims with regard to their immigration plans, or we should believe?

You are saying both in back to back to back to back to back posts. Maybe you guys could organize your thoughts on this.

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Not believe Harris' immigration plans.   Believe Trump's immigration plans.  The American electorate has spoken.

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14 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

So which is it? We should not believe their claims with regard to their immigration plans, or we should believe?

You are saying both in back to back to back to back to back posts. Maybe you guys could organize your thoughts on this.

Please tell me you are not one of those naive folks that believes EVERRYTHING every politician says (on both sides) versus understanding the emotional impact they are trying to achieve by exaggerating their claims of what they are going to do???  I truly believe Trump and his administration are going to do "something" about the boarder and illegals, but I do not believe there will be "mass deportations" of illegals who are here, or have been here, and are causing no harm to the US and it's citizens. 

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8 hours ago, Bigbrog said:

Please tell me you are not one of those naive folks that believes EVERRYTHING every politician says (on both sides) versus understanding the emotional impact they are trying to achieve by exaggerating their claims of what they are going to do???  I truly believe Trump and his administration are going to do "something" about the boarder and illegals, but I do not believe there will be "mass deportations" of illegals who are here, or have been here, and are causing no harm to the US and it's citizens. 

I think we will know shortly. Between the fact that Trump is now one and done, and the Senate is in play again in two years, and the house edge is small, any initiatives he wants movement on will be attempted in the first 12 to 18 months. In talking to a lawyer who advocates for the finance industry on capitol hill, he is hearing the first budget reconciliation bill will be focused on the border and defense spending, and that will happen in the first 3 months. The second will be focused on taxes with a June/July timeframe.

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22 hours ago, mspart said:

Not believe Harris' immigration plans.   Believe Trump's immigration plans.  The American electorate has spoken.

mspart

 

15 minutes ago, mspart said:

Those priorities may change. 

mspart

I am so confused

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A good friend of mine owns a sod business.   He goes through a lawyer to get non citizens to work for him seasonally legally.  So not every non citizen worker is an illegal alien. 

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1 hour ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

 

I am so confused

Keep up WKN.   You are confusing yourself.   My priorities statement was based on your below statement.   In fact I posted right after you.   No need to try to be confusing.   The priorities you outline may change. 

 

1 hour ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

I think we will know shortly. Between the fact that Trump is now one and done, and the Senate is in play again in two years, and the house edge is small, any initiatives he wants movement on will be attempted in the first 12 to 18 months. In talking to a lawyer who advocates for the finance industry on capitol hill, he is hearing the first budget reconciliation bill will be focused on the border and defense spending, and that will happen in the first 3 months. The second will be focused on taxes with a June/July timeframe.

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2 hours ago, fatlaz said:

A good friend of mine owns a sod business.   He goes through a lawyer to get non citizens to work for him seasonally legally.  So not every non citizen worker is an illegal alien. 

Yes and thats what I was pointing out in my 3 example.  

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Sorry ionel, I have a short attention span and it ran out towards the end of your post where you talked about this from your first hand experience.   

Therefore if no US citizens want to do certain types of work, and the number of illegal immigrants are reduced,  then the demand for legal non citizens with work permits will increase. 

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5 minutes ago, fatlaz said:

Sorry ionel, I have a short attention span and it ran out towards the end of your post where you talked about this from your first hand experience.   

Therefore if no US citizens want to do certain types of work, and the number of illegal immigrants are reduced,  then the demand for legal non citizens with work permits will increase. 

Yes just pointing out i agree.  Also don't think it is a "cheap labor" issue.  Think it is more that we don't want to do those jobs.  Who wants to work 14 hour days in dirty conditions or on a hot roof?  

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I worked plastering in Phoenix back in the day.   As hot as it was, I really felt for the roofers,road construction guys and the drywallers.   Drywallers had it rough.   Heavy sheets of sheet rock, no wind, feels like an oven.   Wouldn't want that job.

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