Bond Yields Soaring

[red viking]

I think this is very important and also interesting. Fed lowered interest rates and bond yields have gone in the opposite direction. Could people be losing faith in the U.S. bonds? This results in a higher burden for the U.S. debt payments. If people lose faith in our ability to pay off bonds, or get concerned that we'll "print" our way out of our debt problem, that will result in a significant crisis. 

BTW, neither candidate is really addressing our debt problem, but it will definitely get way worse under Trump than Harris, if they both stand by their words and get their ways. 

Edited October 23 by red viking

[Bigbrog]

46 minutes ago, red viking said:

I think this is very important and also interesting. Fed lowered interest rates and bond yields have gone in the opposite direction. Could people be losing faith in the U.S. bonds? This results in a higher burden for the U.S. debt payments. If people lose faith in our ability to pay off bonds, or get concerned that we'll "print" our way out of our debt problem, that will result in a significant crisis. 

BTW, neither candidate is really addressing our debt problem, but it will definitely get way worse under Trump than Harris, if they both stand by their words and get their ways. 

I'd be interested in understanding this more...truly!  How would it get worse under Trump than Harris...especially when you just said, in the same sentence, that neither candidate is really addressing the debt problem??

[WrestlingRasta]

1 minute ago, Bigbrog said:

I'd be interested in understanding this more...truly!  How would it get worse under Trump than Harris...especially when you just said, in the same sentence, that neither candidate is really addressing the debt problem??

There are a number of professional economists who have weighed in on this issue, given the policy plans (not necessarily targeted at the debt, but economic policy plans) of each candidate. I.e. tariffs, taxes, markets, etc. 

And not posting this to be a smartass, but just to say that there have been a number of pros write and speak about this topic. 

[red viking]

59 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

There are a number of professional economists who have weighed in on this issue, given the policy plans (not necessarily targeted at the debt, but economic policy plans) of each candidate. I.e. tariffs, taxes, markets, etc. 

And not posting this to be a smartass, but just to say that there have been a number of pros write and speak about this topic. 

Yes, and every one of the objective sources (with limited if any exceptions) agree that Harris' proposed policies would increase the deficit less than Trump. It isn't even close. 

[red viking]

1 hour ago, Bigbrog said:

I'd be interested in understanding this more...truly!  How would it get worse under Trump than Harris...especially when you just said, in the same sentence, that neither candidate is really addressing the debt problem??

They would both increase the deficit by a significant amount. It would be even worse under Trump. Along with inflation. 

[jross]

58 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

I'd be interested in understanding this more...truly!  How would it get worse under Trump than Harris...especially when you just said, in the same sentence, that neither candidate is really addressing the debt problem??

Both candidates fail on debt management; they both will add to the debt.  Trump has the positive in having Elon Musk run a government efficiency commission tasked with conducting a complete financial and performance audit of the entire federal government.  That will potentially enable reduced government fraud and wasteful spending. 

The impact to the GDP and Debt varies depending on which expert / article you read.  

[Scouts Honor]

2 hours ago, red viking said:

Could people be losing faith in the U.S. bonds? This results in a higher burden for the U.S. debt payments. If people lose faith in our ability to pay off bonds, or get concerned that we'll "print" our way out of our debt problem, that will result in a significant crisis. 

 

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2 hours ago, red viking said:

I think this is very important and also interesting. Fed lowered interest rates and bond yields have gone in the opposite direction. Could people be losing faith in the U.S. bonds? This results in a higher burden for the U.S. debt payments. If people lose faith in our ability to pay off bonds, or get concerned that we'll "print" our way out of our debt problem, that will result in a significant crisis. 

BTW, neither candidate is really addressing our debt problem, but it will definitely get way worse under Trump than Harris, if they both stand by their words and get their ways. 

 

[red viking]

38 minutes ago, jross said:

Both candidates fail on debt management; they both will add to the debt.  Trump has the positive in having Elon Musk run a government efficiency commission tasked with conducting a complete financial and performance audit of the entire federal government.  That will potentially enable reduced government fraud and wasteful spending. 

The impact to the GDP and Debt varies depending on which expert / article you read.  

It's very unanimous, unless you use your cherry-picked right wing analysts. 

[Bigbrog]

17 hours ago, red viking said:

It's very unanimous, unless you use your cherry-picked right wing analysts. 

But there isn't any cherry-picked left wing analysts going on??

[red viking]

https://www.crfb.org/papers/fiscal-impact-harris-and-trump-campaign-plans

 

Your best source

[red viking]

Bonds ppped big time last night. Traders know that trimps policies will push mass deficits and inflation.