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Posted
4 hours ago, shiraz321 said:

Ghasempour is confirmed for 86kg 

Confirmed as in, for tha Asian Champs next week, or for other tournaments / Iranian worlds trials?

Posted
1 hour ago, Shibboleth said:

Confirmed as in, for tha Asian Champs next week, or for other tournaments / Iranian worlds trials?

He will wrestle at the Takhti cup at 86. That will be the only trial for him. The head coach in the same interview said he hopes he will win world gold at 86 this year.

Basically, outside of a catastrophic weight cut, he will be the 86kg rep this year at worlds. 

 

Yaz is also confirmed to no longer wrestle at 86. He will return at 92 or 97. 

 

 

Posted
3 hours ago, shiraz321 said:

He will wrestle at the Takhti cup at 86. That will be the only trial for him. The head coach in the same interview said he hopes he will win world gold at 86 this year.

Basically, outside of a catastrophic weight cut, he will be the 86kg rep this year at worlds. 

 

Yaz is also confirmed to no longer wrestle at 86. He will return at 92 or 97. 

 

 

hypothetically;   if Yaz could get to 86 and was uninjured;   would you pick Yaz or Ghasempour?

Posted
1 hour ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

hypothetically;   if Yaz could get to 86 and was uninjured;   would you pick Yaz or Ghasempour?

Yaz is 5-0 all time head to head I believe if we are assuming uninjured. Ramazonov's last showing makes me think he may have not had a fluke run at the oympics he may be a real main stay at 86 for a few years. He is on the older side though.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

hypothetically;   if Yaz could get to 86 and was uninjured;   would you pick Yaz or Ghasempour?

Yaz has beat him every time, as Truzzcat said. There was no point in any of the matches where I thought Ghasempour could win, even if the scoreline wasn't too wide in some of their later matches. They are close enough in age where that is not a factor to Ghasempour finally getting one over Yaz. I think the only reason to pick Ghasempour would be Yaz being diminished from his injury, which is very possible. 

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On 3/17/2025 at 5:46 AM, shiraz321 said:

We came second at 45 and 48 this year at cadets. Our gold medalists were shamsipour at 71 and afshar at 80. I think shamsipour and hosseini are more talented than yousefi. 

 

Seems that a lot guys who wrestle at the lightest cadet weights hit growth spurts and don't wrestle the lightest senior weights. Khateri will not be a senior at 57.

Yeah ok that makes sense, I knew our guys made the final but I misremembered by the looks of things. I'm interested to see Shamsipour and Hosseini wrestle in the near future considering how highly you rate them, hoping they both end up very successful. Its frustrating we can't find light weights in freestyle considering we do have some in greco. Is it a coaching problem? Hopefully the joint practice with Japan will steer us in the right direction.

Posted (edited)
15 hours ago, shiraz321 said:

Ghasempour is confirmed for 86kg 

This is fantastic news. This will probably mean that we have a very good shot of winning gold at 86, 92 and 125kg this year. Potentially also 65 and 79kg as well but that will depend on the form of Amouzad and Nokhodi and whether they can overcome Mamedov and Usmanov respectively.

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Posted
11 hours ago, Lucho said:

This is fantastic news. This will probably mean that we have a very good shot of winning gold at 86, 92 and 125kg this year. Potentially also 65 and 79kg as well but that will depend on the form of Amouzad and Nokhodi and whether they can overcome Mamedov and Usmanov respectively.

I dont think Amouzad can beat Kiyooka but we will see

Posted
19 hours ago, Lucho said:

This is fantastic news. This will probably mean that we have a very good shot of winning gold at 86, 92 and 125kg this year. Potentially also 65 and 79kg as well but that will depend on the form of Amouzad and Nokhodi and whether they can overcome Mamedov and Usmanov respectively.

Is there any consideration for amouzad to go 70 and then 74? to me he has the frame to fill it out. He seems to be a completely different guy at scratch weight compared to +2kg at ranking series events and thats not even factoring in 2-day weigh ins.

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The Yas-Ghassempour at 86 seems a bit of moot debate. The initial signals 2-3 months ago after an interview that Dabir had given was that Yazdani had put on weight after the shoulder operation and was unlikely to make it to 86 and was going for 92 or 97 ( which seems doubly uncharted if you add the as yet unknown consequence of the shoulder issue). At that time Dabir seemed to think Ghassempour would be a suitable candidate for 86. I guess we would know soon enough if his hunch/assessment is correct or not.

Posted
On 3/19/2025 at 6:13 PM, Truzzcat said:

Is there any consideration for amouzad to go 70 and then 74? to me he has the frame to fill it out. He seems to be a completely different guy at scratch weight compared to +2kg at ranking series events and thats not even factoring in 2-day weigh ins.

Haven't heard anything about him going up. The head coach at the time of the olympic games spoke about the final and basically just said Kiyooka was a bad matchup for him. 

Posted
On 3/19/2025 at 9:47 PM, shiraz321 said:

I dont think Amouzad can beat Kiyooka but we will see

My prediction is that Kiyooka ends up on the other side of the bracket with Mammedov with Mammedov beating him in the semis. But I also want to think that Rahman has learnt his lesson from last time and hopefully can avenge his loss. 

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On 3/20/2025 at 5:13 AM, Truzzcat said:

Is there any consideration for amouzad to go 70 and then 74? to me he has the frame to fill it out. He seems to be a completely different guy at scratch weight compared to +2kg at ranking series events and thats not even factoring in 2-day weigh ins.

Would he even be as good at 74? I think the main reason he is so good at 65kg is that he is physically so big. At heavier weight classes he just doesn't have that advantage and he will be against far more technical wrestlers (Sidakov, Zhamalov, Tsabalov, etc) that I just don't think he has the necessary tools to beat. However, I think he could definitely be a contender at 70 but 74 has way too much parity and talent for his style to work. I would love to be proven wrong but I think most people would agree with me on this.

Posted
5 hours ago, nhs67 said:

Any individual results?

Yes, in the first group, they went 1-3, and only Hedayati got gold https://khanehkoshti.ir/نتایج-پنج-وزن-نخست-نمایندگان-کشورمان-د/

 

In the second group of 5, 4 more made it into the finals https://khanehkoshti.ir/کشتی-فرنگی-قهرمانی-آسیا؛اسماعیلی،-سه/

I am assuming you can use google translate to read the results.  If that is not the case, let me know, and I will translate the details

 

Posted
20 minutes ago, Irani said:

Yes, in the first group, they went 1-3, and only Hedayati got gold https://khanehkoshti.ir/نتایج-پنج-وزن-نخست-نمایندگان-کشورمان-د/

 

In the second group of 5, 4 more made it into the finals https://khanehkoshti.ir/کشتی-فرنگی-قهرمانی-آسیا؛اسماعیلی،-سه/

I am assuming you can use google translate to read the results.  If that is not the case, let me know, and I will translate the details

 

The links are perfect, friend.  Thank you.

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Posted (edited)

After the armenia junior tournament our junior fs team is set for at least the asian champs. Khateri won't be on it, he flopped and got DNP at 61. The other guy came 5th. Soleimanian came second at 86. I think they will send Rahmani now that senior 86 is filled with Ghasempour

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Posted
9 hours ago, Irani said:

5 gold and 3 silver for Iran GR team in the Asian championship

https://khanehkoshti.ir/ایران-قهرمان-مسابقات-کشتی-فرنگی-بزرگس/

Our team overall did quite well just disappointing that our guys at 55 and 60 weren't that impressive. The North Korean has Dad Marz's number by the looks of things but the match was much closer than last time. At 60kg I think we need to try someone else, honestly Ahmadi Vafa is not a bad investment at 60kg sure he wasn't too good but he just went up from 55kg and Asian's would have been a very good learning curve for him. I'm surprised our lightweights aren't performing too well given Rangraz was a lightweight wrestler himself.

Posted
5 hours ago, shiraz321 said:

After the armenia junior tournament our junior fs team is set for at least the asian champs. Khateri won't be on it, he flopped and got DNP at 61. The other guy came 5th. Soleimanian came second at 86. I think they will send Rahmani now that senior 86 is filled with Ghasempour

Anyone in that line up looking like a future world/olympic champ calibre? Khateri seems to have peaked at juniors and hasn't been able to develop the skillset necessary for older age groups. In saying that he is what 18 or 19 years old? I think for our light weights we need a revamp of the coaching all together we are clearly doing something wrong from the grass roots.

Posted
4 hours ago, Lucho said:

Anyone in that line up looking like a future world/olympic champ calibre? Khateri seems to have peaked at juniors and hasn't been able to develop the skillset necessary for older age groups. In saying that he is what 18 or 19 years old? I think for our light weights we need a revamp of the coaching all together we are clearly doing something wrong from the grass roots.

Does Iran have world champs on deck? Really?

Yes. The answer is always yes. The only question is how many and are we talking UWW weights or Olympic weights? Because the answer is still yes.

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Posted
14 hours ago, Lucho said:

Anyone in that line up looking like a future world/olympic champ calibre? Khateri seems to have peaked at juniors and hasn't been able to develop the skillset necessary for older age groups. In saying that he is what 18 or 19 years old? I think for our light weights we need a revamp of the coaching all together we are clearly doing something wrong from the grass roots.

Peaked at cadets you mean, he has no positive junior results. He  turned 18 in January, so he still has a few years as a junior to go. I think if this other guy flops at 61 at asian juniors they may give him another chance. 

Posted (edited)

 

Asian Championships

 

Mongolian 57 gets a, "defensive" fall over Sakamoto for bronze.

Han the 57 from PRK GOLD over Valizadeh IRI 8-1.

Kim PRK Bronze over Zhumashbek KGZ.

Ebrahimzadeh TF over Jalolov UZB Bronze

Tanabee JPN over Tseveensurant MGL GOLD

Ayoagi JPN Bronze over KAV

Ochir loses to Khalili for Bronze 9-1

Akmataliez 4-4 over Rassadin for GOLD

MGL over KRZ for Bronze

Evloev TJK Bronze by fall over Yergesh KAZ

Yousefihajiv IRI GOLD by TF over Saipudinov BRN

IRI Azimi Bronze over Hemelyahev TKM

Habila CHN Bronze over Abdulkhairov KGZ

Yoshida JPN GOLD over Aitmhukhan  KAZ

 

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