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Dual predictions in bullet points, NCAA predictions in sub bullet points.

IOWA vs OSU

  • 125: Spratley md Cruz 4-0 Pokes
    • Spratley: AA (top 6)
    • Cruz: 1-2
  • 133: Ayala md Witcraft 4-4
    • Witcraft: 1-2
    • Ayala: AA (top 6)
  • 141: Hughes dec Block 7-4 Pokes (I wouldn't fight you if you had Block by dec)
    • Hughes: R12
    • Block: R16
  • 149: Parco dec Jamison 7-7
    • Jamison: R16
    • Parco: AA (6-8)
  • 157: Teemer dec Fish/Travis 10-7 Hawks
    • Fish/Travis AA (6-8)
    • Teemer: AA (top 4)
  • 165: Caliendo dec Amine 13-7 Hawks (But I wouldn't be surprised if a change of scenery brings out the old Amine and he pulls the upset)
    • Amine: AA (top 6)
    • Caliendo: AA (top 4)
  • 174: Brands dec Hamiti 16-7 Hawks (I wouldn't fight you if you had Hamiti by dec here though)
    • Hamiti: AA (top 6)
    • Brands: AA (top 6)
  • 184: Plott dec Arnold 16-10 Hawks
    • Plott: AA (top 3)
    • Arnold: AA (6-8)
  • 197: Buchanan dec Surber/Merrill 19-10 Hawks
    • Surber/Merrill: R12
    • Buchanan: AA (top 4)
  • 285: Hendrickson dec Keuter 19-13 Hawks (I wouldn't fight you if you had Hendrickson bonus points here)
    • Hendrickson: AA (top 3)
    • Keuter: R12

Close dual but I think we can all agree Hawks would be favored. NCAA tournament is interesting. Pokes have 6 AA's, Hawks have 7. Pokes have big bonus points from Hendrickson and Plott. I'd give the edge to the Pokes. 

IOWA vs IOWA STATE

  • 125: Grice dec Cruz 3-0 Clones
    • Grice: R16
    • Cruz: 1-2
  • 133: Ayala dec E. Frost 3-3
    • E. Frost: AA (top 6)
    • Ayala: AA (top 6)
  • 141: Block dec. J. Frost 6-3 Hawks (I think this as much of a toss us as it gets)
    • J. Frost: R16
    • Block: R16
  • 149: Echemendia dec Parco 6-6 (I wouldn't fight you if you have Parco here. I just really liked what I saw from Echemendia at NCAAs and expect him to progress moving up a weight).
    • Echemendia: AA (top 6)
    • Parco: AA (6-8)
  • 157: Teemer dec Johnson 9-6 Hawks (I think this is a toss up honestly, but I'll go with the returning runner-up)
    • Johnson: AA (top 6)
    • Teemer: AA (top 4)
  • 165: Caliendo tech Rojas/Riggins 14-6 Hawks
    • Rojas/Riggins: 1-2
    • Caliendo: AA (top 4)
  • 174: Brands tech Gaitan/Riggins 19-6 Hawks
    • Gaitan/Riggins: R16
    • Brands: AA (top 6)
  • 184: Arnold dec Bockman 22-6 Hawks
    • Bockman: R16
    • Arnold: AA (6-8)
  • 197: Buchanan dec Carroll 25-6 Hawks
    • Carroll: AA (6-8)
    • Buchanan: AA (top 4)
  • 285: Yonger dec Keuter 25-9 Hawks
    • Yonger: AA (top 4)
    • Keuter: R12

Hawks heavy favorites in dual format and NCAA tournament format. Hawks have 7 AA's, Clones have 5 AA's. Clones do have a good bonus point getter in Yonger, but I don't think it's enough. 

I think it comes down to Pokes/Hawks for 2nd & 3rd. 

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1 hour ago, Winners Circle said:

Dual predictions in bullet points, NCAA predictions in sub bullet points.

IOWA vs OSU

  • 125: Spratley md Cruz 4-0 Pokes
    • Spratley: AA (top 6)
    • Cruz: 1-2
  • 133: Ayala md Witcraft 4-4
    • Witcraft: 1-2
    • Ayala: AA (top 6)
  • 141: Hughes dec Block 7-4 Pokes (I wouldn't fight you if you had Block by dec)
    • Hughes: R12
    • Block: R16
  • 149: Parco dec Jamison 7-7
    • Jamison: R16
    • Parco: AA (6-8)
  • 157: Teemer dec Fish/Travis 10-7 Hawks
    • Fish/Travis AA (6-8)
    • Teemer: AA (top 4)
  • 165: Caliendo dec Amine 13-7 Hawks (But I wouldn't be surprised if a change of scenery brings out the old Amine and he pulls the upset)
    • Amine: AA (top 6)
    • Caliendo: AA (top 4)
  • 174: Brands dec Hamiti 16-7 Hawks (I wouldn't fight you if you had Hamiti by dec here though)
    • Hamiti: AA (top 6)
    • Brands: AA (top 6)
  • 184: Plott dec Arnold 16-10 Hawks
    • Plott: AA (top 3)
    • Arnold: AA (6-8)
  • 197: Buchanan dec Surber/Merrill 19-10 Hawks
    • Surber/Merrill: R12
    • Buchanan: AA (top 4)
  • 285: Hendrickson dec Keuter 19-13 Hawks (I wouldn't fight you if you had Hendrickson bonus points here)
    • Hendrickson: AA (top 3)
    • Keuter: R12

Close dual but I think we can all agree Hawks would be favored. NCAA tournament is interesting. Pokes have 6 AA's, Hawks have 7. Pokes have big bonus points from Hendrickson and Plott. I'd give the edge to the Pokes. 

 

But if Ayala transfers to OSU and Hamiti beats Brands (myself and 3 Iowa CC runners are betting on Hamiti) then the score flips.  

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15 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

I don't think we see Teemer or Buchanan first semester. If so, I unfortunately have a hard time seeing the Hawks pull through against ISU

Good point. In that case you take 6 away from the Hawks and give 6 to the Clones. That makes it 19-12. Even if both Carroll and Johnson both got pins, it's still 19-18 Hawks.

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8 minutes ago, ionel said:

But if Ayala transfers to OSU and Hamiti beats Brands (myself and 3 Iowa CC runners are betting on Hamiti) then the score flips.  

  • Does Ayala to OSU actually have any legs? I kind of assumed that was just silly message board rumors. He seems like a Hawk through and through.
  • I don't hate the Hamiti over Brands pick. Especially with DT in his corner. I think his results will improve tenfold. But I'm taking the wait-and-see approach on him.
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19 minutes ago, Winners Circle said:
  • Does Ayala to OSU actually have any legs? I kind of assumed that was just silly message board rumors. He seems like a Hawk through and through.
  • I don't hate the Hamiti over Brands pick. Especially with DT in his corner. I think his results will improve tenfold. But I'm taking the wait-and-see approach on him.

Didn't Gilman seem like a Hawk forever?  We are living in a new and strange world. 

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31 minutes ago, ionel said:

But if Ayala transfers to OSU and Hamiti beats Brands (myself and 3 Iowa CC runners are betting on Hamiti) then the score flips.  

 

21 minutes ago, Winners Circle said:
  • Does Ayala to OSU actually have any legs? I kind of assumed that was just silly message board rumors. He seems like a Hawk through and through.
  • I don't hate the Hamiti over Brands pick. Especially with DT in his corner. I think his results will improve tenfold. But I'm taking the wait-and-see approach on him.

Add me to the Hamiti over Brands team.  Winners, solid breakdown

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4 minutes ago, Winners Circle said:

Fair point. I just didn't know if there had been rumors about Ayala from actual credible sources.

Yeah I  dont know that its credible but it makes a lot of sense. With Gilman, Fix & RBY to train with and OSU appears to need a 133, Witcraft is what he is, looks like a struggle for Hughes to get there and is that really DT's style.  BTW I didn't realize there are 2 Hamiti on the roster.  Have I just not been paying attention or is @flyingcement holding back on info?  

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