Eagle26 Posted April 9 Posted April 9 1 hour ago, nhs67 said: Full bracket because... why not...bored? Might do others. Not sure. So are the guys with byes to semis really not counted as a seed? That would seem totally unfair to the 2 and 3 seed… they would meet in the quarterfinals and then wrestle a world medalist after that. That’s crazy. It would be much better to be the 4 seed than the 3 seed if that’s the case. They should be counting them as the two seed and adjusting accordingly
Truzzcat Posted April 9 Posted April 9 2 hours ago, nhs67 said: Full bracket because... why not...bored? Might do others. Not sure. Nico vs blaze is a really fun match I think. I know Nico kinda smoked Lilledahl but I think blaze is a bit more physically mature and better in ties positionally right now( not saying hes better than Luke) so I think he will be a tougher matchup for Nico specifically. 1
nhs67 Posted April 9 Author Posted April 9 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Eagle26 said: So are the guys with byes to semis really not counted as a seed? That would seem totally unfair to the 2 and 3 seed… they would meet in the quarterfinals and then wrestle a world medalist after that. That’s crazy. It would be much better to be the 4 seed than the 3 seed if that’s the case. They should be counting them as the two seed and adjusting accordingly This is precisely how they did it last Olympics, too. It also royally screws up the consis as well. See below for an example of how 74 KG was. Edited April 9 by nhs67 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
Eagle26 Posted April 9 Posted April 9 15 minutes ago, nhs67 said: This is precisely how they did it last Olympics, too. It also royally screws up the consis as well. See below for an example of how 74 KG was. In that example was Gantt actually the 3 seed though?
nhs67 Posted April 9 Author Posted April 9 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Eagle26 said: In that example was Gantt actually the 3 seed though? Technically he was the ( 4 ) seed, but IMar withdrew, but yes. https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/6943412-official-2021-olympic-trials-seeds 74 kg Jordan Burroughs – sitting to best-of-three finals Kyle Dake – sitting to challenge tournament semifinals 1 (WD)- Isaiah Martinez 2 (1) - Jason Nolf 3 (2) - Chance Marsteller 4 (3) - Thomas Gantt 5 (4) - Logan Massa 6 (5) - David Carr 7 (6) - Evan Wick 8 (7) - Vincenzo Joseph Edited April 9 by nhs67 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
Eagle26 Posted April 9 Posted April 9 39 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Technically he was the ( 4 ) seed, but IMar withdrew, but yes. https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/6943412-official-2021-olympic-trials-seeds 74 kg Jordan Burroughs – sitting to best-of-three finals Kyle Dake – sitting to challenge tournament semifinals 1 (WD)- Isaiah Martinez 2 (1) - Jason Nolf 3 (2) - Chance Marsteller 4 (3) - Thomas Gantt 5 (4) - Logan Massa 6 (5) - David Carr 7 (6) - Evan Wick 8 (7) - Vincenzo Joseph Thanks for looking into that. I guess they set the precedent, but I don’t like it. Definitely not very fair for the bottom bracket, but I guess that’s nothing new for international wrestling lol. 1
nhs67 Posted April 10 Author Posted April 10 On 4/8/2024 at 9:15 AM, nhs67 said: 57 KG should look like this (for those entered, not seeds)... 57 KG Sitting out to Bottom Semi-Finals Vitali Arujau - 2023 Senior World champion 61 KG Challenge Tournament Zane Richards - 2023 World Team member Thomas Gilman - 2020 Olympic Team member Daton Fix - 2019 World Team member Marcus Blaze - 2023 U17 World champion Spencer Lee - 2023 Bill Farrell champion Nico Megaludis - 2023 Senior Nationals 2nd place Liam Cronin - 2023 Senior Nationals 3rd place Daniel DeShazer - 2023 Senior Nationals 4th place Luke Lilledahl - 2023 Senior Nationals 5th place Richard Figeroa - NCAA D1 champion at 125 lbs Joe Colon - 2018 World Team member 61 KG Nick Suriano - 2024 Pan Am Championships champion 61 KG Jax Forrest - Last Chance Qualifier So it appears that Figueroa and Colon will not be there. That puts the seeds from this... On 4/8/2024 at 11:57 AM, nhs67 said: 57 KG 1 - Richards 2 - Gilman 3 - Fix 4 - Lee 5 - Suriano 6 - Megaludis 7 - Figueroa 8 - Cronin 9 - DeShazer 10 - Lilledahl 11 - Blaze 12 - Forrest Semi-finals - Lee over Richards, Gilman over Arujau (Gilman over Fix) Best of Three Finals - Gilman over Lee 2-1 to this... 1 - Richards 2 - Gilman 3 - Fix 4 - Lee 5 - Suriano 6 - Megaludis 7 - Cronin 8 - DeShazer 9 - Lilledahl 10 - Blaze 11 - Forrest Semi-finals - Lee over Lilledahl, Gilman over Arujau (Gilman over Fix) Best of Three Finals - Gilman over Lee 2-1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
ILLINIWrestlingBlog Posted April 10 Posted April 10 I've enjoyed the seed predictions and the bracket talk. Great job! Now that we know who are the final entries, when will USA Wrestling publish the actual brackets? I'm getting antsy in my pantsy.
Wrestleknownothing Posted April 10 Posted April 10 3 minutes ago, ILLINIWrestlingBlog said: I've enjoyed the seed predictions and the bracket talk. Great job! Now that we know who are the final entries, when will USA Wrestling publish the actual brackets? I'm getting antsy in my pantsy. I think on Monday, but not 100% on that 2 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
nhs67 Posted April 10 Author Posted April 10 The thing is that being there is no actual criteria there can be a lot of human error factored in to seeding and they can legitimately take whatever they want in to consideration. Will they punish Starocci for never having competed at 74 KG in his life? Will he be punished because he is injured? "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
ionel Posted April 10 Posted April 10 1 hour ago, Wrestleknownothing said: I think on Monday, but not 100% on that ^^^ another good signature line ^^^ 2 2BPE 11/17/24 SMC
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