tiger-style Posted March 11 Posted March 11 33 minutes ago, MinnesotaMustang said: I agree. If Carr has to be #4 due to loss to Ramirez, make MM #1 and KOT #2. Makes no sense to put MM ahead of KOT. 1
tiger-style Posted March 11 Posted March 11 I’m not sure what Rocky’s strategy was in that match. He hasn’t wrestled much this year and in most cases he hasn’t wrestled hard when he is on the mat. Hopes he okay.
flyingcement Posted March 11 Posted March 11 Just now, Truzzcat said: do not let Yonger bounce on one leg apparently not!
MinnesotaMustang Posted March 11 Posted March 11 16 minutes ago, tiger-style said: Makes no sense to put MM ahead of KOT. Yes it does - it’s a logical way of separating Carr and KOT. Guarantee neither Carr or KOT cares about being the #1 seed. They both want to be separated from the other more than they want that to be seeded 1.
ionel Posted March 11 Posted March 11 44 minutes ago, MinnesotaMustang said: Yes it does - it’s a logical way of separating Carr and KOT. Guarantee neither Carr or KOT cares about being the #1 seed. They both want to be separated from the other more than they want that to be seeded 1. Who has he beat? 2BPE 11/17/24 SMC
XiXiTiger Posted March 11 Posted March 11 1 hour ago, Truzzcat said: If KOT runs the table he will have more than likely beaten the big 10 champ at both 165 and 174 wonder if anyone has beaten two big 10 champs of that year in the same season. Askren did it in 2006. Beat Kish at 184 at national duals and Herbert at 174 at NCAAs. 1
JimmyCinnabon Posted March 11 Posted March 11 8 hours ago, MinnesotaMustang said: Yes it does - it’s a logical way of separating Carr and KOT. Guarantee neither Carr or KOT cares about being the #1 seed. They both want to be separated from the other more than they want that to be seeded 1. Why do they need separated? Why would they manipulate the seeding in an attempt to get a finals matchup they want? What is the point of having seeding criteria if they just ignore it so they can generate matchups they want? They should simply use the formula/criteria like they always have and ignore who matches up against who and when. 1
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted March 11 Posted March 11 8 hours ago, MinnesotaMustang said: Yes it does - it’s a logical way of separating Carr and KOT. Guarantee neither Carr or KOT cares about being the #1 seed. They both want to be separated from the other more than they want that to be seeded 1. This would not be fair to the other 31 wrestlers in the field. Also, do think it is at least slightly possible that KOT would rather wrestle Carr than MM?
Pinnacle Posted March 11 Posted March 11 10 hours ago, Truzzcat said: plot twist they give MM the 1 seed which actually makes his path significantly more difficult Might not be popular, but I don't want to see an O Toole Carr final because I think it will look a LOT like last night's match. I would rather see Mesenbrink or Hamiti face O Toole in the final
JimmyCinnabon Posted March 11 Posted March 11 53 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: This would not be fair to the other 31 wrestlers in the field. Also, do think it is at least slightly possible that KOT would rather wrestle Carr than MM? This is such a weird thread. We have people advocating for special treatment of two wrestlers as if the wrestlers should get to decide who they wrestle and when. It's not how it works. Not even close.
Truzzcat Posted March 11 Posted March 11 16 minutes ago, JimmyCinnabon said: This is such a weird thread. We have people advocating for special treatment of two wrestlers as if the wrestlers should get to decide who they wrestle and when. It's not how it works. Not even close. I agree with you it's just going to be odd to see more than likely the two best guys at the weight hit in the semis although that's just how things go sometimes. The only issue I have given how it looks the formula will spit it out the 1 seed will be a far less favorable draw than the 2 which again is not Mitchell's problem so he should not be dinged for it just kind of shitty for KOT. Selfishly I also wanted to see MM wrestle both Carr and KOT.
Truzzcat Posted March 11 Posted March 11 28 minutes ago, Pinnacle said: Might not be popular, but I don't want to see an O Toole Carr final because I think it will look a LOT like last night's match. I would rather see Mesenbrink or Hamiti face O Toole in the final I think unless carr can seriously adjust to that crotch lock corner sit keegan does hes not going to be able to beat him so I would definitely agree. I think MM could have issues in that same situation hamiti cut the corner on him a ton but keegan has gotten bit by ducks a few times this year and MM is so good at that wrist throw by to an outside step so those will be fun positions to watch.
Pinnacle Posted March 11 Posted March 11 5 minutes ago, Truzzcat said: I think unless carr can seriously adjust to that crotch lock corner sit keegan does hes not going to be able to beat him so I would definitely agree. I think MM could have issues in that same situation hamiti cut the corner on him a ton but keegan has gotten bit by ducks a few times this year and MM is so good at that wrist throw by to an outside step so those will be fun positions to watch. A KOT Mesenbrink match would at least be "different". Even if everyone believes KOT will win, at least there is an element of intrigue.
Konquest Posted March 11 Posted March 11 4 minutes ago, Pinnacle said: The Big12 finals took longer than 3 hours to complete. 45 minutes of it was the Downey/Chittum match. Keckeisen won MOW, FWIW. A little surprising considering Fix was the first ever 5x and O'Toole stopped Carr from becoming the second ever 5x. Still, Parker was the best wrestler in the tournament considering what he did to #2 in the final. 1
Crotalus Posted March 11 Posted March 11 The only issue I have given how it looks the formula will spit it out the 1 seed will be a far less favorable draw than the 2This is actually not an uncommon occurrence. And the seeding won't be manipulated because of it.
ionel Posted March 11 Posted March 11 1 hour ago, Pinnacle said: Might not be popular, but I don't want to see an O Toole Carr final because I think it will look a LOT like last night's match. I would rather see Mesenbrink or Hamiti face O Toole in the final You do realize the semi finals are on TV? Maybe some folks want to see Carr v Mesenbrink or Hamiti vs O'Toole? 2BPE 11/17/24 SMC
Pinnacle Posted March 11 Posted March 11 Just now, ionel said: You do realize the semi finals are on TV? Maybe some folks want to see Carr v Mesenbrink or Hamiti vs O'Toole? The point really is to seed according to criteria and not according to fan wishes.
ionel Posted March 11 Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, Pinnacle said: The point really is to seed according to criteria and not according to fan wishes. I agree. 2BPE 11/17/24 SMC
1032004 Posted March 15 Posted March 15 On 3/10/2024 at 10:06 PM, Quaker118 said: Why didn’t Chittum take neutral in ot after he rode Downey out. He could have won on rt. Was this the worst coaching decision of conference weekend? Dresser hasn’t seemed to have a great year as far as on the mat coaching decisions… 1
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