JimmyBT Posted February 6 Author Share Posted February 6 1 hour ago, braves121 said: no I am talking about slavery in general does not matter what race. You brought up race, I just stated how slavery is simply still legal. Slavery is slavery no matter what. I can compare them because forced labor is forced labor It’s not the same when a crime is committed and they’re proven guilty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted February 6 Author Share Posted February 6 1 hour ago, braves121 said: is it really a good thing for people who are falsely convicted to be forced into slavery? Why don’t you list all of them for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, braves121 said: is it really a good thing for people who are falsely convicted to be forced into slavery? There is nothing wrong with working when you are getting free room and board and health care benefits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 3 hours ago, Bigbrog said: People...including me...have told you over and over why stacking the SCOTUS is stupid and un-needed. And don't change what I said or claim I said something I didn't...I never said that the constitution was infallible? It is an amazing document that has been amended for things that were really horrible things and deemed no longer acceptable in our society. Because you don't like the political lean of the current SCOTUS you want to change everything. But if it was leaning the other way I bet you would be arguing why it shouldn't ever change. You’re not even answering the right question! What makes our judicial system better than others? Why should it stay as how it is? And I’m not talking about packing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 47 minutes ago, Paul158 said: There is nothing wrong with working when you are getting free room and board and health care benefits. you just described slavery lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Just now, uncle bernard said: you just described slavery lol Except that they put themselves in that position by their own knowing choices. That is not slavery, that is consequence. mspart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) 1 minute ago, mspart said: Except that they put themselves in that position by their own knowing choices. That is not slavery, that is consequence. mspart “african slaves put themselves in that position by becoming prisoners of war to neighboring tribes who then sold them to atlantic slave traders. that’s not slavery, that’s consequence.” Edited February 7 by uncle bernard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, mspart said: So braves121, you are for what exactly? You are for no punishment of offenders whatsoever because they might be required to work? And you call that legitimate slavery? It's not like these people were caught and sold into slavery for the rest of their lives. These are people that know the rules, know what is expected, and decided on their own to not live by those rules and subject themselves to possible incarceration and hard labor. So it was a choice on their part. Whereas a slave does not have a choice. You are trying to equalize a square and a circle. That they have area is true, but that is the end of their similarity. Incarceration is a choice. Pure and simple. mspart i would assume he’s for not allowing private prisons to hire out prison labor for well below minimum wages to businesses who then make profit off them (which also undermines American workers btw). their punishment is their incarceration. that’s more than enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 3 hours ago, uncle bernard said: No, what I want is a drastically different system altogether with term limits and a more rational structure like you see in most other democracies across the world. I don't really care about stacking it with liberals. Most of the liberal justices do things that I think are wrong too. I want a system that is more democratic and less able to institute minority rule on behalf of a political minority that hasn't been able to convince the majority of this country it's right in 20 years. If they reform the court and Conservatives keep winning, more power to them! It's for the people to decide. You’re bouncing all over the place on this. There is no more rational or less political structure, anywhere. The truth is, the court has suffered from activists, no matter which party they were nominated by, than by originalist/textualists. In fact, your complaints and solutions both would pull the court to a more political state to satisfy. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 8 minutes ago, uncle bernard said: you just described slavery lol Bam!!!!. You sort of lose a few rights when decide to go the criminal route. Maybe this will be a teachable moment for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 2 minutes ago, Offthemat said: You’re bouncing all over the place on this. There is no more rational or less political structure, anywhere. The truth is, the court has suffered from activists, no matter which party they were nominated by, than by originalist/textualists. In fact, your complaints and solutions both would pull the court to a more political state to satisfy. This is just an assertion. Most people in this country have the attitude of “america is the best country - this is our government - therefore it’s the best too” There are plenty of other judicial systems around the world that are less politicized than ours. Ours is one of the most famously political! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 8 minutes ago, Paul158 said: Bam!!!!. You sort of lose a few rights when decide to go the criminal route. Maybe this will be a teachable moment for them. appreciate the honesty! many people believe slavery is okay as long as the slaves are bad people. Most don’t have the courage admit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) 6 minutes ago, uncle bernard said: This is just an assertion. Most people in this country have the attitude of “america is the best country - this is our government - therefore it’s the best too” There are plenty of other judicial systems around the world that are less politicized than ours. Ours is one of the most famously political! Ours may be the most publicized and sensationalized, but not the most politically influenced. Other than from the left. Edited February 7 by Offthemat 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 12 minutes ago, Offthemat said: Ours may be the most publicized and sensationalized, but not the most politically influenced. Other than from the left. the party at a 6-3 disadvantage has the larger political influence? lol conservatives have an entire political group funded by billions of dollars primarily devoted towards developing conservative judges and getting court seats. it’s called the federalist society. look it up lol it’s hilarious how little americans know about how other countries work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 25 minutes ago, uncle bernard said: appreciate the honesty! many people believe slavery is okay as long as the slaves are bad people. Most don’t have the courage admit it. You don’t pay attention very well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 10 minutes ago, uncle bernard said: the party at a 6-3 disadvantage has the larger political influence? lol conservatives have an entire political group funded by billions of dollars primarily devoted towards developing conservative judges and getting court seats. it’s called the federalist society. look it up lol it’s hilarious how little americans know about how other countries work. We know all about it. Funny how the most devolved country on the planet is the one you hate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 4 hours ago, JimmyBT said: https://www.voanews.com/a/chinese-migration-up-at-border-as-us-marks-anniversary-of-repeal-of-exclusion-act/7396937.html#:~:text=According to the U.S. Border,the same period last year. Oh Uncle Bernie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 (edited) 23 minutes ago, uncle bernard said: the party at a 6-3 disadvantage has the larger political influence? lol conservatives have an entire political group funded by billions of dollars primarily devoted towards developing conservative judges and getting court seats. it’s called the federalist society. look it up lol it’s hilarious how little americans know about how other countries work. It’s by design so the country has checks and balances. And it works. Edited February 7 by JimmyBT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 5 minutes ago, JimmyBT said: We know all about it. Funny how the most devolved country on the planet is the one you hate. nice little freudian slip there lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 2 minutes ago, uncle bernard said: nice little freudian slip there lol Slip?? Please explain. Then when you’re done with that you can tell us why China has so many people immigrating here from their great gov run society 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 5 hours ago, uncle bernard said: People from developed countries aren't coming here "in masses." lol The US has a lower net migration rate than half of Europe. That must mean all those "communist" countries have a better system than us! Welcome aboard Comrade! https://usafacts.org/articles/where-do-us-immigrants-come-from/#:~:text=Mexico%2C India%2C and China were,was third with 114%2C121 immigrants. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Just now, JimmyBT said: https://usafacts.org/articles/where-do-us-immigrants-come-from/#:~:text=Mexico%2C India%2C and China were,was third with 114%2C121 immigrants. are india and china in europe buddy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 (edited) 3 minutes ago, uncle bernard said: are india and china in europe buddy? China is one of those communist countries you’re bragging about right ? Comrade? Edited February 7 by JimmyBT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 5 minutes ago, uncle bernard said: are india and china in europe buddy? Not many communist countries in a Europe buddy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 13 minutes ago, JimmyBT said: Not many communist countries in a Europe buddy you can’t even tell when i’m making fun of you lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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