MPhillips Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) On 12/2/2023 at 1:30 AM, creek chub said: 4-5 years of watching most of BA’s matches Expand Same here. All through HS and college. Did you see a weakness that BA can exploit? Edited December 2, 2023 by MPhillips 1 .
Hillbilly Jim Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 1:33 AM, MPhillips said: Same here. All through HS and college. Did you see a weakness that BA can exploit? Expand I wouldn't say any weakness--but was it my imagination or did you notice once the score got lopsided that Andonian was kind of playing and toying with positions? Like he wasn't looking to pull the trigger or score--just looking for some big move openings to exploit next time....
MPhillips Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 1:42 AM, Hillbilly Jim said: I wouldn't say any weakness--but was it my imagination or did you notice once the score got lopsided that Andonian was kind of playing and toying with positions? Like he wasn't looking to pull the trigger or score--just looking for some big move openings to exploit next time.... Expand I wouldn't disagree, but I would say, that was all that he had to offer. If he could have got a TD he wouldn't have been, "exploring" other options... .
Hillbilly Jim Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 I agree with that. Shapiro is technically superior and I knew Andonian's best shot was some big or freaky.... 1
creek chub Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 1:33 AM, MPhillips said: Same here. All through HS and college. Did you see a weakness that BA can exploit? Expand Not so much of a Shapiro weakness but BA was close to finishing a couple of those scrambles that he usually wins. BA just needs to keep doing BA things and I think he has a shot to get the W either in the dual or March.
MPhillips Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 2:08 AM, creek chub said: Not so much of a Shapiro weakness but BA was close to finishing a couple of those scrambles that he usually wins. BA just needs to keep doing BA things and I think he has a shot to get the W either in the dual or March. Expand Again...I don't disagree. He finishes those scrambles on almost everyone else. He wasn't laying back. He was going for it. .
creek chub Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 2:13 AM, MPhillips said: Again...I don't disagree. He finishes those scrambles on almost everyone else. He wasn't laying back. He was going for it. Expand There’s not enough collegiate folk data on Shapiro yet to imply he’s unbeatable. If he keeps wrestling like this though, he’s gonna be tough for most guys to beat, but still beatable. The scary part is he’s a true freshman
MPhillips Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) On 12/2/2023 at 2:41 AM, creek chub said: data on Shapiro yet to imply he’s unbeatable. Expand Agreed. Never meant to imply that. Edited December 2, 2023 by MPhillips .
creek chub Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 2:51 AM, MPhillips said: Agreed. Never meant to imply that. Expand Shapiro just lost
MPhillips Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 2:57 AM, creek chub said: Shapiro just lost Expand Not sure what you're getting at creek... .
creek chub Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 3:01 AM, MPhillips said: Not sure what you're getting at creek... Expand ??? I gave an update….
MPhillips Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 3:19 AM, creek chub said: ??? I gave an update…. Expand You did... .
Antitroll2828 Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 Few wrestle back “upsets” Zaconne from Campbell knocks out Chelbove 149- Jordan Williams loses to Hofstras Noah Tapia 184- aaron ayzerov majors Foca , Ayzerov then lost to Fisher from V tech , Ayzerov is a tough dude , won NJ states his senior year with a torn Meniscus in a real tough weight , I think 1st thru 7th are all wrestling D1 now 184- Dylan Fishback over Munoz , Fisher over Kane , Bullock over Gavin Hoffman 197- Sonny Sasso was the last seed in the weight and in wrestlebacks beat the 16 seed Striggow, the #11 seed Bates, the 14th seed Hopkins from Campbell and then won by med ff over #4 Luke Surber, he faces #7 Nick Stammet next 285 Boone McDermott beat #4 Trephan , and Fernandes over Catka which is an upset in seed only 3
BigRedFan Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 7:14 PM, SocraTease said: Another upset: Carr goes down. Expand Ramirez now has wins over Griffith (NCAA champ), Carr (former NCAA champ), and two over Monday (NCAA finalist).
Ragu Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 7:15 PM, BigRedFan said: Ramirez now has wins over Griffith (NCAA champ), Carr (former NCAA champ), and two over Monday (NCAA finalist). Expand He has world beater ability when he wants sometimes
Crotalus Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 7:15 PM, BigRedFan said: Ramirez now has wins over Griffith (NCAA champ), Carr (former NCAA champ), and two over Monday (NCAA finalist).Why is Griffith a NCAA champ but Carr is only a former champ? 2
BigRedFan Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 7:37 PM, Crotalus said: On 12/2/2023 at 7:15 PM, BigRedFan said: Ramirez now has wins over Griffith (NCAA champ), Carr (former NCAA champ), and two over Monday (NCAA finalist). Expand Why is Griffith a NCAA champ but Carr is only a former champ? Expand Because Griffith was the defending champion when Ramirez beat him, but Carr is not.
1032004 Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 Some more 125: Provo over everyone Caleb Smith over Ramos in consi semis 141: Happel over Hardy Jamison over Hardy (after losing to him earlier) and Cornella Echemendia over Cornella 149: Nash Singleton over Kinner 157: Gallagher over Chumbley 165: Garrett Thompson over Olguin 174: Perrine over Norman who beat Griffith and Austin Murphy 184: Sam Wolf over Foca and Hoffman 197: Jaxon Smith over Sloan
Antitroll2828 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 11:51 PM, 1032004 said: Some more 125: Provo over everyone Caleb Smith over Ramos in consi semis 141: Happel over Hardy Jamison over Hardy (after losing to him earlier) and Cornella Echemendia over Cornella 149: Nash Singleton over Kinner 157: Gallagher over Chumbley 165: Garrett Thompson over Olguin 174: Perrine over Norman who beat Griffith and Austin Murphy 184: Sam Wolf over Foca and Hoffman 197: Jaxon Smith over Sloan Expand Garrett Thompson has looked good to start this year, took out Olguin and Connor Brady at cklv , knocked off AA Peyton Hall a few weeks ago too , good for the bobcats maybe they can have an AA this season 2
Adam Waters Faith Christian Academy, Pennsylvania Class of 2026 Committed to Ohio State Projected Weight: 184
Isreal Ibarra Santa Cruz Valley Union, Arizona Class of 2025 Committed to Arizona State Projected Weight: 174, 184
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