MPhillips Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, creek chub said: 4-5 years of watching most of BA’s matches Same here. All through HS and college. Did you see a weakness that BA can exploit? Edited December 2, 2023 by MPhillips 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Jim Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, MPhillips said: Same here. All through HS and college. Did you see a weakness that BA can exploit? I wouldn't say any weakness--but was it my imagination or did you notice once the score got lopsided that Andonian was kind of playing and toying with positions? Like he wasn't looking to pull the trigger or score--just looking for some big move openings to exploit next time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hillbilly Jim said: I wouldn't say any weakness--but was it my imagination or did you notice once the score got lopsided that Andonian was kind of playing and toying with positions? Like he wasn't looking to pull the trigger or score--just looking for some big move openings to exploit next time.... I wouldn't disagree, but I would say, that was all that he had to offer. If he could have got a TD he wouldn't have been, "exploring" other options... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Jim Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 I agree with that. Shapiro is technically superior and I knew Andonian's best shot was some big or freaky.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creek chub Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 32 minutes ago, MPhillips said: Same here. All through HS and college. Did you see a weakness that BA can exploit? Not so much of a Shapiro weakness but BA was close to finishing a couple of those scrambles that he usually wins. BA just needs to keep doing BA things and I think he has a shot to get the W either in the dual or March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, creek chub said: Not so much of a Shapiro weakness but BA was close to finishing a couple of those scrambles that he usually wins. BA just needs to keep doing BA things and I think he has a shot to get the W either in the dual or March. Again...I don't disagree. He finishes those scrambles on almost everyone else. He wasn't laying back. He was going for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creek chub Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 25 minutes ago, MPhillips said: Again...I don't disagree. He finishes those scrambles on almost everyone else. He wasn't laying back. He was going for it. There’s not enough collegiate folk data on Shapiro yet to imply he’s unbeatable. If he keeps wrestling like this though, he’s gonna be tough for most guys to beat, but still beatable. The scary part is he’s a true freshman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, creek chub said: data on Shapiro yet to imply he’s unbeatable. Agreed. Never meant to imply that. Edited December 2, 2023 by MPhillips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creek chub Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, MPhillips said: Agreed. Never meant to imply that. Shapiro just lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, creek chub said: Shapiro just lost Not sure what you're getting at creek... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creek chub Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, MPhillips said: Not sure what you're getting at creek... ??? I gave an update…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, creek chub said: ??? I gave an update…. You did... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antitroll2828 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Few wrestle back “upsets” Zaconne from Campbell knocks out Chelbove 149- Jordan Williams loses to Hofstras Noah Tapia 184- aaron ayzerov majors Foca , Ayzerov then lost to Fisher from V tech , Ayzerov is a tough dude , won NJ states his senior year with a torn Meniscus in a real tough weight , I think 1st thru 7th are all wrestling D1 now 184- Dylan Fishback over Munoz , Fisher over Kane , Bullock over Gavin Hoffman 197- Sonny Sasso was the last seed in the weight and in wrestlebacks beat the 16 seed Striggow, the #11 seed Bates, the 14th seed Hopkins from Campbell and then won by med ff over #4 Luke Surber, he faces #7 Nick Stammet next 285 Boone McDermott beat #4 Trephan , and Fernandes over Catka which is an upset in seed only 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocraTease Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Another upset: Carr goes down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedFan Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Just now, SocraTease said: Another upset: Carr goes down. Ramirez now has wins over Griffith (NCAA champ), Carr (former NCAA champ), and two over Monday (NCAA finalist). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragu Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, BigRedFan said: Ramirez now has wins over Griffith (NCAA champ), Carr (former NCAA champ), and two over Monday (NCAA finalist). He has world beater ability when he wants sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crotalus Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Ramirez now has wins over Griffith (NCAA champ), Carr (former NCAA champ), and two over Monday (NCAA finalist).Why is Griffith a NCAA champ but Carr is only a former champ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedFan Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, Crotalus said: 27 minutes ago, BigRedFan said: Ramirez now has wins over Griffith (NCAA champ), Carr (former NCAA champ), and two over Monday (NCAA finalist). Why is Griffith a NCAA champ but Carr is only a former champ? Because Griffith was the defending champion when Ramirez beat him, but Carr is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Some more 125: Provo over everyone Caleb Smith over Ramos in consi semis 141: Happel over Hardy Jamison over Hardy (after losing to him earlier) and Cornella Echemendia over Cornella 149: Nash Singleton over Kinner 157: Gallagher over Chumbley 165: Garrett Thompson over Olguin 174: Perrine over Norman who beat Griffith and Austin Murphy 184: Sam Wolf over Foca and Hoffman 197: Jaxon Smith over Sloan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antitroll2828 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 5 hours ago, 1032004 said: Some more 125: Provo over everyone Caleb Smith over Ramos in consi semis 141: Happel over Hardy Jamison over Hardy (after losing to him earlier) and Cornella Echemendia over Cornella 149: Nash Singleton over Kinner 157: Gallagher over Chumbley 165: Garrett Thompson over Olguin 174: Perrine over Norman who beat Griffith and Austin Murphy 184: Sam Wolf over Foca and Hoffman 197: Jaxon Smith over Sloan Garrett Thompson has looked good to start this year, took out Olguin and Connor Brady at cklv , knocked off AA Peyton Hall a few weeks ago too , good for the bobcats maybe they can have an AA this season 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Slack Wasatch via Snow College, Utah Class of 2024 Committed to Utah Valley Projected Weight: 197
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