MPhillips Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Off to Blacksburg Possible lineups. 125 - Ventresca vs McCrone 133 - Latona vs Bouzakis 141- Church vs Mendez 149 - Henson vs D’Emilio 157 - Andonian/ Ulry vs Gallagher 165 - Brady vs Wilcox (unless Hepner has healed) 174 - Lewis vs Welsh (unless Kharch has healed and still doubtful) 184 - Fisher vs Shumate (unless Hoffman is down, which will be a surprise) 197 -Smith vs Misita (unless Geog has healed) 285 -Catka vs Feldman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Elite Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 26 minutes ago, MPhillips said: Off to Blacksburg Possible lineups. 125 - Ventresca vs McCrone 133 - Latona vs Bouzakis 141- Church vs Mendez 149 - Henson vs D’Emilio 157 - Andonian/ Ulry vs Gallagher 165 - Brady vs Wilcox (unless Hepner has healed) 174 - Lewis vs Welsh (unless Kharch has healed and still doubtful) 184 - Fisher vs Shumate (unless Hoffman is down, which will be a surprise) 197 -Smith vs Misita (unless Geog has healed) 285 -Catka vs Feldman Remember a few years back when Mitch Moore stuck Sasso? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorenomore Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Why not Rogotzke at 184? He has 4 more dates he can go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, scorenomore said: Why not Rogotzke at 184? He has 4 more dates he can go That would be fine with me, I just figure Shumate needs the matches more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I think we see Welsh at 174. I didn't see the nature of his injury this last weekend. Re-aggravation or something more like precaution? If it is re-aggravation, then I might expect a medical at this point? Welsh looks ready right now. He won't win it, but neither was a healthy Kharchla. I think their peak performances are comparable. 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 This is how I see the potential matches... 125 Ventresca - VT over McCrone or Kilkeary - Both should be decisions 133 Latona - VT over Bouzakis or Gonzales - Both should be decisions, potentially wide ones 141 Mendez - tOSU over Mason or Church - I am thinking Major for both Cannon - tOSU TOSSUP Mason or Church - Not enough info to predict this one. I would think with how Cannon wrestled this last weekend he would be favored. 149 Henson - VT TOSSUP D'Emilio - Both of these guys looked really, really good this last weekend. Henson should be favored, but I think it's a tossup. D'Emilio - tOSU over Crook - Wide Decision/Major type match if this one happens Henson/Crook - VT over Brown - Henson likely gets bonus and Crook may push for it 157 Gallagher - tOSU over Andonian/Ulrey/Hipolito - Gallagher looked phenomenal. Despite it being 'short notice' that he goes 157 this season, he looked phenomenal. I think he wins via Decision over either of these. With the new TD rules it could be a Major against any of them... especially if Andonian gets down because of a failed throw early 165 Wilcox over Ulrey/Hipolito? - This weight class is going to be an interesting, and pivotal one for the dual. Neither's starter is healthy. Do they both go because they are the best option? Not sure. If Andonian doesn't go at 157 I could see them throwing out Hipolito or Ulrey at 157 and the other at 165. I think Wilcox wins a tight decision against either. If Andonian goes at 157 I expect it to be Ulrey. 174 Kharchla over Lewis - I don't think we see Kharchla here, but if we do I think he wins. Styles make matches. Lewis over Welsh - This won't really be that close. Welsh is as ready as any Frosh at 174 this year, but Lewis is just too much for him, I think. Kharchla/Welsh over Clark - If we don't see Lewis it'll likely be Clark, I think. Not too sure, actually. I still have hopes it is Ulrey-Andonian-Brady-Lewis at 157-184 for VTech. That won't happen, though. 184 Hoffman/Shumate/Rogotzke over Fisher - I think all get wide Decisions over Fisher. Not sold on Fisher yet and I think tOSU has a deep stable to pull from here. 197 Smith/Stewart over Geog/Shumate/Rogotzke - I think whoever VTech puts out should or would be favored over whoever tOSU puts out here. Pretty sure Stewart is hurt, though. 285 Feldman over Catka - I think Feldman starts to cement the fact that he is the best first year starter in NCAA D1 with this match. He looks bigger, but somehow less 'poofy' than last year... just carrying the weight in a more natural weight it seems. He is giving me hella Shortman Coon vibes... don't ask me why or how I just have a feeling in my berries. That means he is going to compete with everyone who isn't throwing old man strength at him right out the gate here (The only Michael McClure I see for him might be Cassioppi right now? That doesn't mean I am predicting him to beat Kerk or Hendrickson, I am just saying he is going to be ready for those matches.). This is all going to come down to how creative VTech can get with their lineup in the middle to put out their best product. I think tOSU has more depth right now in the upper weights that they can afford injuries right now. If both squads put out their best product it is going to be a barn burner. If one squad doesn't, then it could be something like a 25-12 victory for one or the other. We could see a lineup like this... 125 - Ventresca - Kilkeary 133 - Latona - Bouzakis 141 - Church - Mendez 149 - Hensen - D'Emilio 157 - Ulrey - Gallagher 165 - Andonian - Hepner 174 - Brady - Welsh 184 - Lewis - Hoffman 197 - Smith - Geogg 285 - Catka - Feldman Or this... 125 - Ventresca - McCrone 133 - Latona - Gonzalez 141 - Mason - Cannon 149 - Hensen - D'Emilio 157 - Andonian - Gallagher 165 - Brady - Wilcox 174 - Lewis - Chase 184 - Fisher - Hoffman 197 - Smith - Shumate 285 - Catcka - Boykin Or... well I could keep going. I don't think either of those lineups will be what is put out, though. This is an early season dual and I think the coaches are looking to put on a showcase and want to put out their best possible lineups. Right now both sides have some dings and I don't know what to expect. I do know that one of those lineups I just posted makes me, as a fan, much more excited for the dual than the other. 2 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 8 hours ago, nhs67 said: If it is re-aggravation, then I might expect a medical at this point? Welsh looks ready right now. He won't win it, but neither was a healthy Kharchla. I think their peak performances are comparable. 8 hours ago, nhs67 said: 174 Kharchla over Lewis - I don't think we see Kharchla here, but if we do I think he wins. Styles make matches. I like how you play both sides. It's a win/win. 8 hours ago, nhs67 said: He looks bigger, but somehow less 'poofy' than last year... Agreed. He can't really "fill out," but he did, "fill in." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Flo's preview isn't so bad. No real insights as to who will start or mentions of possible injuries, but not so bad... https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/11421118-2023-virginia-tech-vs-ohio-state-wrestling-dual-preview-prediction "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Elite Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Anybody know of this is on Flo or Tv? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted November 9, 2023 Author Share Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) @Ohio Elite https://www.espn.com/espnplus/catalog/30f2f3fd-cdcd-30ef-8c0f-063ac28d5661/ncaa-wrestling#bucketId=2 Edited November 9, 2023 by MPhillips 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted November 9, 2023 Author Share Posted November 9, 2023 125 - Ventresca vs McCrone 133 - Latona vs Bouzakis 141- Church vs Mendez 149 - Henson vs D’Emilio 157 - Andonian/ Ulry vs Gallagher 165 - Brady vs Wilcox (unless Hepner has healed) 174 - Lewis vs Welsh (unless Kharch has healed and still doubtful) 184 - Fisher vs Shumate (unless Hoffman is down, which will be a surprise) 197 -Smith vs Misita (unless Geog has healed) 285 -Catka vs Feldman Bouzakis and Shumate need the matches. Geog goes unless he's still injured. Kharch sits. My good friend @nhs67 laid it out pretty thoroughly above, with the exception of Kharch losing and then winning... nhs67 is sneaky like that. GO BUCKS! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 hour ago, MPhillips said: 125 - Ventresca vs McCrone 133 - Latona vs Bouzakis 141- Church vs Mendez 149 - Henson vs D’Emilio 157 - Andonian/ Ulry vs Gallagher 165 - Brady vs Wilcox (unless Hepner has healed) 174 - Lewis vs Welsh (unless Kharch has healed and still doubtful) 184 - Fisher vs Shumate (unless Hoffman is down, which will be a surprise) 197 -Smith vs Misita (unless Geog has healed) 285 -Catka vs Feldman Bouzakis and Shumate need the matches. Geog goes unless he's still injured. Kharch sits. My good friend @nhs67 laid it out pretty thoroughly above, with the exception of Kharch losing and then winning... nhs67 is sneaky like that. GO BUCKS! I never said Kharch would lose. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steamboat_charlie Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 What has happened in the past two years that would lead you to believe Kharchla should beat Lewis in a folkstyle match? Granted, we're not likely to see that happen this weekend, but if/when they do meet I'm not sure that's a particularly close bout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steamboat_charlie Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Nobody seems to know who's going for either team, but I'll take a stab at a prediction: 125) Ventrezca maj. McCrone - 4-0 VT - major is in play here 133) Bouzakis dec. Latona - 4-3 VT - gut feeling, may be way wrong 141) Mendez maj. Church/Hunter - 7-4 OSU - I actually like Church but don't think he's ready for this matchup yet 149) Henson dec. D'Emilio - 7-7 157) Andonian dec. Gallagher - 10-7 VT 165) Hepner dec. Brady - 10-10 - If Hepner doesn't go, I'd probably favor Brady over Wilcox by a hair 174) Lewis dec. Welsh - 13-10 VT 184) Rogotzke dec. Fisher - 13-13 197) Geog dec. Smith - 16-13 OSU 285) Feldman dec. Catka - 19-13 OSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted November 9, 2023 Author Share Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, nhs67 said: I never said Kharch would lose. You did brother. I even quoted it above and tagged you... On 11/7/2023 at 7:13 AM, nhs67 said: Welsh looks ready right now. He won't win it, but neither was a healthy Kharchla. EDIT to say : I'll give you a pass. Perhaps you jumped from the OSU / VT dual to a National champ comment which is again, pretty sneaky. Edited November 9, 2023 by MPhillips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Elite Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 minute ago, MPhillips said: You did brother. I even quoted it above and tagged you... Talk about a low scoring match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 hour ago, MPhillips said: You did brother. I even quoted it above and tagged you... EDIT to say : I'll give you a pass. Perhaps you jumped from the OSU / VT dual to a National champ comment which is again, pretty sneaky. It was an honest assessment, not sneaky. I think they have the same peak performance capabilities, but styles make matches. I think (a healthy) Kharchla beats Lewis and a healthy Lewis does not lose to Welsh. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted November 11, 2023 Author Share Posted November 11, 2023 Buckeyes Looked good. Nice to finally see Geog and Feldman. D'Emilio looked small compared to Henson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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