When your position has no merit

[El Luchador]

And can't withstand debate 

Try to silence your opposition. 

[mspart]

It's a good tactic except it is for juveniles.   This is not how adults handle things.   It is crazy that Law students at Stanford just can't stand to listen to an opinion that doesn't meet with theirs.   How can these people become good law people if they cannot see the other side or even just listen to the other side?   It is just too dangerous because they are out of their safe space.    Coddling these ingrates really needs to stop.   And the Head of DEI justified them in front of them and did all but cradle them in her arms. 

mspart

[Plasmodium]

4 hours ago, El Luchador said:

And can't withstand debate 

Try to silence your opposition. 

. It looks like the cops stepped out of the way and invited them to break down the doors and come on in!!

[Bigbrog]

I never understood why people hate Charlie Kirk so bad??  I definitely wouldn't call him far right other than he feels very strongly about holding oneself accountable...maybe that is what the left hate so much?  

[mspart]

Accountability - Something the left hates except when applied to the right. 

mspart

[Bigbrog]

Love to hear @Plasmodium and/or @Mike Parrish thoughts on Charlie Kirk and why they feel the way they do.  And I say that not knowing how they feel about him, but just based on what they post on here I assume they dislike him, but I may be wrong (not the first time). 

Anyway, I understand there are loud mouths out there that say crazy things, but Charlie Kirk is definitely not one of them.  All of the interviews and clips I have seen about him, he is very smart, articulate, inclusive of all people and believes, and focuses on facts and data to make his opinions.  He is also someone who is open to hearing other people's thoughts and opinions.

[Plasmodium]

2 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

Love to hear @Plasmodium and/or @Mike Parrish thoughts on Charlie Kirk and why they feel the way they do.  And I say that not knowing how they feel about him, but just based on what they post on here I assume they dislike him, but I may be wrong (not the first time). 

Anyway, I understand there are loud mouths out there that say crazy things, but Charlie Kirk is definitely not one of them.  All of the interviews and clips I have seen about him, he is very smart, articulate, inclusive of all people and believes, and focuses on facts and data to make his opinions.  He is also someone who is open to hearing other people's thoughts and opinions.

I have seen his name fly around, but am unfamiliar with any specific work he does or has done.  In short- no opinion.

[mspart]

Plasi,

Since you have not heard of him until now, what do you think about the folks at the UC Davis throwing eggs, used pepper spray on breaking windows, and spraying graffitti as a protest of his very presence at the university?  I'll even provide some links so you can read all about it.   From left, middle, and right wing media sources.   So you can pick and choose which you prefer.   But just a hint, they all report the same thing.   And guess what?   Police Officers were assaulted and injured as part of mostly peaceful fun!!

https://www.kcra.com/article/2-arrested-building-vandalized-uc-davis-event-conservative-activist/43326784

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/elon-musk-others-respond-after-protesters-smash-windows-hurl-eggs-at-charlie-kirk-event-on-college-campus/ar-AA18E5Bp?li=BBnbfcL

https://www.foxnews.com/us/elon-musk-respond-protesters-smash-windows-hurl-eggs-charlie-kirk-event-college-campus

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-charlie-kirk-campus-protest-b2301722.html

https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article273154315.html

mspart

[Plasmodium]

8 minutes ago, mspart said:

Plasi,

Since you have not heard of him until now, what do you think about the folks at the UC Davis throwing eggs, used pepper spray on breaking windows, and spraying graffitti as a protest of his very presence at the university?  I'll even provide some links so you can read all about it.   From left, middle, and right wing media sources.   So you can pick and choose which you prefer.   But just a hint, they all report the same thing.   And guess what?   Police Officers were assaulted and injured as part of mostly peaceful fun!!

https://www.kcra.com/article/2-arrested-building-vandalized-uc-davis-event-conservative-activist/43326784

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/elon-musk-others-respond-after-protesters-smash-windows-hurl-eggs-at-charlie-kirk-event-on-college-campus/ar-AA18E5Bp?li=BBnbfcL

https://www.foxnews.com/us/elon-musk-respond-protesters-smash-windows-hurl-eggs-charlie-kirk-event-college-campus

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-charlie-kirk-campus-protest-b2301722.html

https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article273154315.html

mspart

I think the very first link has 'arrested' in its title 

[mspart]

That is a response but not to the question I asked you.   Here it is again in case you forgot:

What do you think about the folks at the UC Davis throwing eggs, used pepper spray on breaking windows, and spraying graffitti as a protest of his very presence at the university?

mspart

[Plasmodium]

Sounds pretty harsh. He has a right to speak in public.

The protest backfired in a way since he is appears to be using it as a marketing tool.  More power to him.

[Bigbrog]

Soooo...I have a question...is what happened considered a "protest"??

[El Luchador]

37 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

Soooo...I have a question...is what happened considered a "protest"??

Yes, mostly peaceful. 

[Mike Parrish]

12 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

Yes, mostly peaceful. 

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=january+6th+violence

[Mike Parrish]

5 hours ago, Plasmodium said:

I have seen his name fly around, but am unfamiliar with any specific work he does or has done.  In short- no opinion.

Charlie Kirk is a right wing provocateur.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Kirk

[Plasmodium]

There are a number of popular right wing provocateurs.  Ben Shapiro, Alex Jones, Nick Fuentes come to mind.  Who are their left wing counterparts?

[Mike Parrish]

34 minutes ago, Plasmodium said:

There are a number of popular right wing provocateurs.  Ben Shapiro, Alex Jones, Nick Fuentes come to mind.  Who are their left wing counterparts?

[mspart]

1 hour ago, Mike Parrish said:

Charlie Kirk is a right wing provocateur.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Kirk

What does that have to do with the question?   Does this give license to those students to throw eggs, spray pepper spray, break windows, and injure to police officers?  I'll answer for you since I think you might have a difficult time with this one.    The answer is:   NO, there is no excuse for this behavior, even from left wing students, and those involved should be arrested and convicted and the result put on their permanent criminal record.  

mspart

[El Luchador]

8 minutes ago, Mike Parrish said:

You can't provoke if your position is void of logic and truth.  

[Mike Parrish]

2 minutes ago, mspart said:

What does that have to do with the question?   Does this give license to those students to throw eggs, spray pepper spray, break windows, and injure to police officers?  I'll answer for you since I think you might have a difficult time with this one.    The answer is:   NO, there is no excuse for this behavior, even from left wing students, and those involved should be arrested and convicted and the result put on their permanent criminal record.  

mspart

Someone asked who Charlie Kirk is.

[mspart]

Perhaps you can put as much effort into answering my question that you quoted as you did in trying to figure out who Charlie Kirk is. 

mspart

[Mike Parrish]

41 minutes ago, mspart said:

Perhaps you can put as much effort into answering my question that you quoted as you did in trying to figure out who Charlie Kirk is. 

mspart

It was the same effort.

I wasn't attempting to answer *your* question.
I was answering the "Who is Charlie Kirk? I haven't heard of him..." question.

Edited March 16, 2023 by Mike Parrish

[mspart]

And that's why you quoted me?   Not buying it.   Just more deflection.   You should be a politician, you are good at it.  

Question:   What did you do yesterday?

Answer:  Well, today started with a call to the President and we discussed the Russia/Ukraine crisis.   Last week, I was in Brussels meeting with our NATO allies.   We came to good agreements on a host of issues. 

mspart

[Mike Parrish]

6 minutes ago, mspart said:

And that's why you quoted me?   Not buying it.   Just more deflection.   You should be a politician, you are good at it.  

Question:   What did you do yesterday?

Answer:  Well, today started with a call to the President and we discussed the Russia/Ukraine crisis.   Last week, I was in Brussels meeting with our NATO allies.   We came to good agreements on a host of issues. 

mspart

Look up to Plasmodium's post and mine about 2 hours ago.

I quoted him, not you.

Quote

Posted 2 hours ago

  8 hours ago, Plasmodium said:

I have seen his name fly around, but am unfamiliar with any specific work he does or has done.  In short- no opinion.

Charlie Kirk is a right wing provocateur.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Kirk

 

Edited March 16, 2023 by Mike Parrish

[El Luchador]