Gene Mills Fan Posted October 27 Posted October 27 16 minutes ago, 1032004 said: No. Yelling does not justify being punched, JFC I can’t believe we’re even having this conversation. I don't think she should have gotten punched, but the party that created the problem was removed. Not fascism. Would punches have been thrown without the instigation? No. She could stand up hold a sign but had to be belligerent stomping on listeners rights (not peaceful instantly and not lawful instantly) to arouse. She aroused the wrong people. Maybe they are looking at it or asking witnesses you could get your arrest? you only see it your way. You even refuse to acknowledge she yelled so there is that evidence of your delusionality. 1
1032004 Posted October 27 Posted October 27 13 minutes ago, Gene Mills Fan said: I don't think she should have gotten punched, but the party that created the problem was removed. Not fascism. Would punches have been thrown without the instigation? No. She could stand up hold a sign but had to be belligerent stomping on listeners rights (not peaceful instantly and not lawful instantly) to arouse. She aroused the wrong people. Maybe they are looking at it or asking witnesses you could get your arrest? you only see it your way. You even refuse to acknowledge she yelled so there is that evidence of your delusionality. Wrong. I did acknowledge she yelled, since she said she did. I just said there wasn’t video of her yelling prior to the altercation starting. Mocking someone who was assaulted, and not removing the assaulters, is fascism. Not surprised the guy who fails to see the rampant islamaphobia here also fails to see this.
Gene Mills Fan Posted October 27 Posted October 27 (edited) 47 minutes ago, 1032004 said: Wrong. I did acknowledge she yelled, since she said she did. I just said there wasn’t video of her yelling prior to the altercation starting. Mocking someone who was assaulted, and not removing the assaulters, is fascism. Not surprised the guy who fails to see the rampant islamaphobia here also fails to see this. You said there was no evidence after this was brought to your attention, period. Removing problematic people refusing to act accordingly is not Fascism. But I'm not surprised the guy who fails to see the need to deter bad behavior, and unlawfulness fails to see this. I'm not saying those guys are right but definitely saying what you read into it is obsessively wrong. Edited October 27 by Gene Mills Fan 1
JimmySpeaks Posted October 27 Posted October 27 1 hour ago, 1032004 said: Mocking someone who was assaulted, and not removing the assaulters, is fascism. You’re kidding right? You can’t be this stupid. You just can’t. LIVING the dream in the GREATEST COUNTRY on the planet!!!!
1032004 Posted October 27 Posted October 27 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Gene Mills Fan said: You said there was no evidence after this was brought to your attention, period. Removing problematic people refusing to act accordingly is not Fascism. But I'm not surprised the guy who fails to see the need to deter bad behavior, and unlawfulness fails to see this. I'm not saying those guys are right but definitely saying what you read into it is obsessively wrong. Are you saying those guys were wrong? If not, you clearly can not think rationally. Edited October 27 by 1032004
Gene Mills Fan Posted October 27 Posted October 27 3 minutes ago, 1032004 said: Are you saying those guys were wrong? If not, you clearly can not think rationally. They acted obsessively bad and were wrong to throw punches. But case in point she instigated, if not for her actions there would be no wrongful reaction . If you think it is Fascism, you cannot think rationally. 1
1032004 Posted October 27 Posted October 27 39 minutes ago, Gene Mills Fan said: They acted obsessively bad and were wrong to throw punches. But case in point she instigated, if not for her actions there would be no wrongful reaction . If you think it is Fascism, you cannot think rationally. It wasn’t fascism for them to punch her in the first place. It was fascism that the person who was assaulted was the only one removed, and not the assaulters, as the President mocks the person who was assaulted.
Gene Mills Fan Posted October 27 Posted October 27 14 minutes ago, 1032004 said: It wasn’t fascism for them to punch her in the first place. It was fascism that the person who was assaulted was the only one removed, and not the assaulters, as the President mocks the person who was assaulted. The person who started everything was removed. very common. I guess you've never been a bouncer.
1032004 Posted October 27 Posted October 27 Just now, Gene Mills Fan said: The person who started everything was removed. very common. I guess you've never been a bouncer. She did not start the fight. Yelling is not a fight. I’ve never been a bouncer but a bouncer should also throw out the people that start the actual fight.
Gene Mills Fan Posted October 27 Posted October 27 3 minutes ago, 1032004 said: She did not start the fight. Yelling is not a fight. I’ve never been a bouncer but a bouncer should also throw out the people that start the actual fight. disturbing the peace is good enough for me. She was a premeditated Agitator! A little more reserved than the rioters in Europe.
1032004 Posted October 27 Posted October 27 13 minutes ago, Gene Mills Fan said: disturbing the peace is good enough for me. She was a premeditated Agitator! A little more reserved than the rioters in Europe. Like I said, I’m fine with her being removed. But anyone who thinks the assaulters should not have been removed is out of their minds.
JimmySpeaks Posted October 27 Posted October 27 (edited) 46 minutes ago, 1032004 said: Like I said, I’m fine with her being removed. But anyone who thinks the assaulters should not have been removed is out of their minds. As someone who Bartended and broke up many discussions/scuffles/fights the initiator was always the one that was always shown the door. Edited October 27 by JimmySpeaks LIVING the dream in the GREATEST COUNTRY on the planet!!!!
1032004 Posted October 27 Posted October 27 Just now, JimmySpeaks said: As someone who Bartended and broke up many discussions/scuffles/fights the initiator was always the one that was shown the door. “The initiator” of a fight is the one who throws the first punch. That was not her.
JimmySpeaks Posted October 27 Posted October 27 1 minute ago, 1032004 said: “The initiator” of a fight is the one who throws the first punch. That was not her. Wrong. LIVING the dream in the GREATEST COUNTRY on the planet!!!!
1032004 Posted October 27 Posted October 27 1 minute ago, JimmySpeaks said: Wrong. Well you were a crappy bartender then if you weren’t (at least also) throwing out the person who threw the first punch.
JimmySpeaks Posted October 27 Posted October 27 (edited) 9 minutes ago, 1032004 said: Well you were a crappy bartender then if you weren’t (at least also) throwing out the person who threw the first punch. Bullshit. In my experience 99% of the time the initiator got what they deserved. One time a guy touched a chick on the ass, she asked him politely to stop. He called her a CUN$. He was appropriately punched by her boyfriend and then escorted to the door by me. Edited October 27 by JimmySpeaks LIVING the dream in the GREATEST COUNTRY on the planet!!!!
1032004 Posted October 27 Posted October 27 7 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said: Bullshit. In my experience 99% of the time the initiator got what they deserved. One time a guy touched a chick on the ass, she asked him politely to stop. He called her a CUN$. He was appropriately punched by her boyfriend and then escorted to the door by me. Uh, touching a girl’s ass is a little different than just yelling…
jross Posted October 27 Author Posted October 27 1 hour ago, 1032004 said: Like I said, I’m fine with her being removed. But anyone who thinks the assaulters should not have been removed is out of their minds. Did anybody here or elsewhere say the assaulters should not have been removed? The people in charge of removing them were not aware she had been assaulted. Quote When asked whether it would have been different if the deputies had seen more of the action, and whether the suspects would have been removed from the venue if that were the case, Greene said they “absolutely” would, “and probably looked at as being charged with a criminal offense if that's what we witnessed.” https://www.wfmj.com/news/local-news/mahoning-county/three-suspects-under-investigation-in-trump-rally-assault-case/article_80d6b55b-ac0e-4af6-bf9a-f1399148c1a5.html Kevin Bacon say "Hollow, man."
JimmySpeaks Posted October 27 Posted October 27 51 minutes ago, 1032004 said: Uh, touching a girl’s ass is a little different than just yelling… Actually in this case it’s not. The girl didn’t really care until he screamed cun$ at her. I was there buddy you weren’t. LIVING the dream in the GREATEST COUNTRY on the planet!!!!
jross Posted October 27 Author Posted October 27 1 hour ago, 1032004 said: “The initiator” of a fight is the one who throws the first punch. That was not her. Not so long ago, calling someone a fascist without a disarming smile was legally considered fighting words. There was even a time in history when the public actually had a duty to step in and handle a disruption like that. This dummy (and victim) knowingly instigated this. She was loud, angry, disrespectful, and intentionally caused a scene in the middle of a massive crowd that was completely against her.
1032004 Posted October 27 Posted October 27 50 minutes ago, jross said: Did anybody here or elsewhere say the assaulters should not have been removed? The people in charge of removing them were not aware she had been assaulted. Kevin Bacon say "Hollow, man." They didn’t know she had been assaulted because they didn’t care enough to find out. If you want to argue it was just police incompetence then maybe I can buy that argument. @JimmySpeaks for sure right above you. @Gene Mills Fan was certainly implying it but was just vague enough to give himself plausible deniability.
1032004 Posted October 27 Posted October 27 28 minutes ago, jross said: Not so long ago, calling someone a fascist without a disarming smile was legally considered fighting words. There was even a time in history when the public actually had a duty to step in and handle a disruption like that. This dummy (and victim) knowingly instigated this. She was loud, angry, disrespectful, and intentionally caused a scene in the middle of a massive crowd that was completely against her. “Speech is not violence. Violence is violence.” -Charlie Kirk
JimmySpeaks Posted October 28 Posted October 28 19 minutes ago, 1032004 said: They didn’t know she had been assaulted because they didn’t care enough to find out. If you want to argue it was just police incompetence then maybe I can buy that argument. @JimmySpeaks for sure right above you. @Gene Mills Fan was certainly implying it but was just vague enough to give himself plausible deniability. I never said anything about the assaulters. Good try though. LIVING the dream in the GREATEST COUNTRY on the planet!!!!
1032004 Posted October 28 Posted October 28 28 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said: I never said anything about the assaulters. Good try though. 2 hours ago, JimmySpeaks said: As someone who Bartended and broke up many discussions/scuffles/fights the initiator was always the one that was always shown the door.
JimmySpeaks Posted October 28 Posted October 28 1 hour ago, 1032004 said: Again I never mentioned the chick or others at the Trump rally. Thanks for clarifying LIVING the dream in the GREATEST COUNTRY on the planet!!!!
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