tjhart Posted October 23 Posted October 23 I've seen some talk about Cornell having Joy moving up to '57 with Benny Rogers filling in at 49? Thought?
Simpleman424 Posted October 23 Posted October 23 1 hour ago, tjhart said: I've seen some talk about Cornell having Joy moving up to '57 with Benny Rogers filling in at 49? Thought? As I discovered I might be a Cornell fan this year while discussing incoming freshman I would like to hear opinions on this as well… 1
BruceyB Posted October 23 Posted October 23 IMO it really depends on what Joy's ideal weight is. I would say that, all-things-equal, Joy is probably around the 7th/8th guy on the totem pole at 157 where he is currently rightfully ranked #5 at 149. I don't think he should hold 149 this year if it's a bad cut. He should wrestle his ideal weight and let the chips fall where they may. I'll be honest though, I don't even know who Benny Rogers is.
notawrestler Posted October 23 Posted October 23 Joy definitely won't be back at 149. And even 157 will be a tough cut for him at this point imo. Cornell Kevin said he's 6'2"
Elevator Posted October 23 Posted October 23 I think Joy's NCAA tourney was an aberration. He is as likely as anyone to win it at 157 - although 157 has quality and depth. 2
Rassling Posted October 23 Posted October 23 2 hours ago, Elevator said: I think Joy's NCAA tourney was an aberration. He is as likely as anyone to win it at 157 - although 157 has quality and depth. He’s one of my fav wrestlers. 157 just got more interesting.
Truzzcat Posted October 23 Posted October 23 5 hours ago, notawrestler said: Joy definitely has a big frame and as someone who grew a few inches freshman year of college its certainly possible, but I would be shocked if he grew 2-3 inches from 20 to 21 Cornells website lists him at 6'0 both last year and this year and I generally subtract at least an inch from all roster listings but if hes actually 6'2 I have no clue how he's making even 157. Wick is 6'2/6'3 and seemed to carry less tissue on his frame and he looked like absolute death at 165. 1 I am the personal property of VakAttack
Truzzcat Posted October 23 Posted October 23 As to how I think he does, His top game is going to keep him in matches with most guys. I do not see him beating Landon I sort of have Landon in a tier of his own this year I think that kids mentally just built different and is only going to continue to get better. Of all of the performances this summer I think him beating khalili until the last 35 seconds is up there with one of the most impressive (I think Khalili could win gold at seniors). Joy should be in a match with just about anyone else there is a chance Antrell and Kasak move into the Landon tier and are much better than everyone else but I am waiting to see them this year before I make any proclamation about that. (This turned into more of a 157 tiers post and I believe I heard he may be going 165 so it may not be relevant but I think Kannon webster may mess some people up this year, he had an incredible summer at 74kg.) 2 I am the personal property of VakAttack
Truzzcat Posted October 23 Posted October 23 also @notawrestler welcome I see your x posts all the time wish more of those guys would come over here. Aside from Che I cannot handle the his chechen prop from all angles. 3 I am the personal property of VakAttack
Hammerlock3 Posted October 23 Posted October 23 5 hours ago, Elevator said: I think Joy's NCAA tourney was an aberration. He is as likely as anyone to win it at 157 - although 157 has quality and depth. the way valencia came back on him....I honestly don't know if it was or not, when you watch it you can't believe he's gonna lose for most of it, and he doesn't just break...so you I guess you say no one was gonna beat valencia that weekend he wrestled that well....but hell even with fan mentality hat on Joy has to take some responsibility for it....obviously i don't know what to think. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
MPhillips Posted October 23 Posted October 23 24 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: obviously i don't know what to think. Ohio bias... .
Hammerlock3 Posted October 23 Posted October 23 (edited) 4 minutes ago, MPhillips said: Ohio bias... in a related topic, this year kind of broke my pro-cornell bias, getting hard to cheer for(iowa file).....I don't have a fetish for bashing them like a certain team.... Edited October 23 by Hammerlock3 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
MPhillips Posted October 23 Posted October 23 Just now, Hammerlock3 said: I don't have a fetish for bashing them like a certain team.... It's still early. .
Hammerlock3 Posted October 23 Posted October 23 Just now, MPhillips said: It's still early. i do hate red.... "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
MPhillips Posted October 23 Posted October 23 Just now, Hammerlock3 said: i do hate red.... There you are... .
juniorvarsity Posted October 24 Posted October 24 1 hour ago, Hammerlock3 said: i do hate red.... But not scarlet ...
MPhillips Posted October 24 Posted October 24 Just now, juniorvarsity said: But not scarlet ... Especially scarlet... .
Hammerlock3 Posted October 24 Posted October 24 11 minutes ago, juniorvarsity said: But not scarlet ... its almost like you know something "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
notawrestler Posted October 24 Posted October 24 7 hours ago, Truzzcat said: also @notawrestler welcome I see your x posts all the time wish more of those guys would come over here. Aside from Che I cannot handle the his chechen prop from all angles. Thanks! You gotta just laugh at the international accounts. They like to talk trash but it makes things interesting 2
BruceyB Posted October 24 Posted October 24 10 hours ago, Elevator said: I think Joy's NCAA tourney was an aberration. He is as likely as anyone to win it at 157 - although 157 has quality and depth. I don't think Joy's tournament was indicative of how good he is, but we're talking about a guy who lost to Buesgens, Valencia, and Gaj in the final month of the season. Those are very good opponents, but there is no chance that I am picking any of them to be a serious contender at 157 right now. I would argue that Joy has a much higher likelihood of failing to AA than to win an NCAA this season. I'm not saying he can't win it, but as likely as anyone is quite a stretch.
BruceyB Posted October 24 Posted October 24 13 minutes ago, notawrestler said: Thanks! You gotta just laugh at the international accounts. They like to talk trash but it makes things interesting Ey, just realized you are the not a wrestler thanks to Truzz. I listen to every episode of FRL so I have heard your name many a time. 1
BruceyB Posted October 24 Posted October 24 7 hours ago, Truzzcat said: Joy definitely has a big frame and as someone who grew a few inches freshman year of college its certainly possible, but I would be shocked if he grew 2-3 inches from 20 to 21 Cornells website lists him at 6'0 both last year and this year and I generally subtract at least an inch from all roster listings but if hes actually 6'2 I have no clue how he's making even 157. Wick is 6'2/6'3 and seemed to carry less tissue on his frame and he looked like absolute death at 165. There is no way he is 6'2". Idk if Cornell Kev was having a little fun in that post, but Joy is long, but I certainly didn't think he was Wick long.
notawrestler Posted October 24 Posted October 24 1 hour ago, BruceyB said: Ey, just realized you are the not a wrestler thanks to Truzz. I listen to every episode of FRL so I have heard your name many a time. I used to terrorize the live chat more before they started prioritizing the paid chatters 1
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