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[Caveira]

5 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Man you really must think Trump is evil for speeding up the approval of the Trump vaccine if you think it could be millions.  Again, the 82% was a fake number.   It was not what the actual data even said.  Actual data showed no increase.  

Unfortunately miscarriages are fairly common in general and it’s sad.  But it’s not anywhere close to 82% of known pregnancies, an increase of that significance would be obvious in the data.

 

Trump wasn’t behind the mandates?  Or losing your job?   Or the lock downs? Or the school closings etc?   You know — my body my choice?

you continue to  ignore this and play your reindeer games 

Edited August 17 by Caveira

[mspart]

If you all remember, Trump did warp speed the "vaccine" because we had a pandemic on the loose.   And the media whipped up everyone to be very afraid.   But when Biden took over, you would think by what was said, it was his vax.  Trump was never acknowledged as having a hand in its development.   Part of the revisionist history.  

mspart

[1032004]

6 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Trump wasn’t behind the mandates.  

What I’ve been pushing back on @Offthemat’s posts are his false claims of the vaccine causing an 82% miscarriage rate and a record increase in disabilities, so let’s stick to the topic of the vaccine.  If you keep in mind that: 

1) ~50%+ of the country wanted to get the vaccine voluntarily 

2) Not all employers mandated it to begin with, and it was later struck down anyway

Then it’s clear that the overwhelming majority of people that got the vaccine did not get it because of the mandate.  So when claims of it causing an 82% miscarriage rate or record increase in disabilities are brought up, that’s really irrelevant to mandates.  If anyone truly believes those numbers, they must think Trump deserves to be in jail or at least is responsible for the worst government initiative in human history.  There’s no way around that obvious contradiction.  There is no legitimate explanation for both supporting Trump and thinking the Trump vaccine did that type of damage.

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, 1032004 said:

What I’ve been pushing back on @Offthemat’s posts are his false claims of the vaccine causing an 82% miscarriage rate and a record increase in disabilities, so let’s stick to the topic of the vaccine.  If you keep in mind that: 

1) ~50%+ of the country wanted to get the vaccine voluntarily 

2) Not all employers mandated it to begin with, and it was later struck down anyway

Then it’s clear that the overwhelming majority of people that got the vaccine did not get it because of the mandate.  So when claims of it causing an 82% miscarriage rate or record increase in disabilities are brought up, that’s really irrelevant to mandates.  If anyone truly believes those numbers, they must think Trump deserves to be in jail or at least is responsible for the worst government initiative in human history.  There’s no way around that obvious contradiction.  There is no legitimate explanation for both supporting Trump and thinking the Trump vaccine did that type of damage.

I don’t care about your convo on that topic boss.  You sometimes go off the deep end work your reindeer games 

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[1032004]

2 minutes ago, Caveira said:

I don’t care about your convo on that topic boss.  You sometimes go off the deep end work your reindeer games 

Clearly you do, you’ve replied to me multiple times about it.  Obviously you agree with my statement about there being no logical way to support Trump and hate the vaccine (not just the mandates) or you wouldn’t keep trying to whatabout 

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, 1032004 said:

Clearly you do, you’ve replied to me multiple times about it.  Obviously you agree with my statement about there being no logical way to support Trump and hate the vaccine (not just the mandates) or you wouldn’t keep trying to whatabout 

Bleh 

[Offthemat]

9 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Trump wasn’t behind the mandates.   Or losing your job.  Or the lock downs.  Or the school closings etc.  

you continue to  ignore this and play your reindeer games 

He’s pretty high on himself, thinking he’s the only one to think about the natural rate of miscarriages.  That’s the first comparison they looked for.   And then it goes to like you said, Trump wasn’t doing the data gathering, either.  And how many women, or doctors, report miscarriages to the gov’t.  Apparently not many.  How many would automatically suspect a vaccine caused it.  He passes it off like it’s just another of his party’s stunts.  What a lowlife.  His peers are subterranean, like worms and moles. 

[braves121]

Trump Dismisses COVID-19 Vax Safety Claims, Says He Saved 100 Million Lives - Newsweek

"You have to understand, there are the pros and cons," said Trump. "Some reports [say] that it's the greatest thing that's ever happened and we saved tens of millions of lives. Then you'll read other reports [that] say there were some problems with the vaccine...but relatively small numbers.

"But you know, you have many reports that say the vaccines save tens of millions of lives," he continued. "That without the vaccines you would have had a thing...where perhaps 100 million people died."

[1032004]

3 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

He’s pretty high on himself, thinking he’s the only one to think about the natural rate of miscarriages.  That’s the first comparison they looked for.   And then it goes to like you said, Trump wasn’t doing the data gathering, either.  And how many women, or doctors, report miscarriages to the gov’t.  Apparently not many.  How many would automatically suspect a vaccine caused it.  He passes it off like it’s just another of his party’s stunts.  What a lowlife.  His peers are subterranean, like worms and moles. 

Trump sped up the approval process.   If there were major issues with the vaccine, he bears significant blame (not all of course).  Fortunately, the actual data across hundreds of studies shows that outside of myocarditis in young males, there really were not major issues with it.  Thanks Trump for the Trump vaccine!

I’m sorry, I still think it’s hilarious that in a thread about people being mad because they think Fauci lied, they’re recycling 5 year old debunked lies 

[Offthemat]

You think there’s some comprehensive database of miscarriages?  Other female problems?  Show me, mf.  There were people trying to get the word out, but they were deleted and banned from social media.  
 

Trump’s not a doctor and has no responsibility for what’s in the vaccine.  He did a fine job of clearing the red tape, but it’s the medical professionals’ responsibility for ensuring its performance and safety.  Trump didn’t mandate anything, the autopen did.  
 

None of it would have happened if Fauci hadn’t disobeyed direct orders and gone about funding and obscuring the development of the virus.  Lying about it after it got out.  The way the timing laid out for the election, I want Fauci waterboarded until we find out whether it was intentional.  Otherwise, why wouldn’t he have been honest with us about how to react to it.  

27 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

they’re recycling 5 year old debunked lies 

Five years ago nearly everything broadcast, everything that came from the gov’t wwere lies.  We all knew that eventually the truth would come out.  

[braves121]

13 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

You think there’s some comprehensive database of miscarriages?  Other female problems?  Show me, mf.  There were people trying to get the word out, but they were deleted and banned from social media.  
 

Trump’s not a doctor and has no responsibility for what’s in the vaccine.  He did a fine job of clearing the red tape, but it’s the medical professionals’ responsibility for ensuring its performance and safety.  Trump didn’t mandate anything, the autopen did.  
 

None of it would have happened if Fauci hadn’t disobeyed direct orders and gone about funding and obscuring the development of the virus.  Lying about it after it got out.  The way the timing laid out for the election, I want Fauci waterboarded until we find out whether it was intentional.  Otherwise, why wouldn’t he have been honest with us about how to react to it.  

Five years ago nearly everything broadcast, everything that came from the gov’t wwere lies.  We all knew that eventually the truth would come out.  

man covid really broke some people's brains.......

[JimmySpeaks]

This was from the model my blue state governor used to lock down schools, businesses and to prevent people from attending holidays with their families. This was also BEFORE the vaccine. 
 

If you’re < 65 yers old with no underlying health conditions you have a 99.5% recovery rate if you get covid.  

[JimmySpeaks]

I got Covid before the vaccine.  It was nothing compared to the flu I’ve had numerous times after taking the flu shot.  I never got Covid a second time even though I was exposed to it on numerous occasions.  I was told I needed booster after booster after booster until my dr finally agreed that I didn’t.  Sometimes common sense is better than science. 

[Caveira]

I didn’t get the jab.  I never got Covid.  My wife got the jab (for reasons).  She never got Covid.  My kids did not get the jab.  They never got Covid.  
 

somehow we didn’t.  That part I can’t explain.  

[nick]

I got Covid twice, never got the vaccine, the first time was horrible, second time wasn’t that bad.

My dad got Covid and didn’t have the vaccine, was in the hospital for 6 months and it killed both of his lungs long term, currently on the transplant list at the Cleveland Clinic (talk about $$$)

My wife got Covid while pregnant, she had the vaccine, she wasn’t really affected and baby was issue free.

[Caveira]

6 minutes ago, nick said:

I got Covid twice, never got the vaccine, the first time was horrible, second time wasn’t that bad.

My dad got Covid and didn’t have the vaccine, was in the hospital for 6 months and it killed both of his lungs long term, currently on the transplant list at the Cleveland Clinic (talk about $$$)

My wife got Covid while pregnant, she had the vaccine, she wasn’t really affected and baby was issue free.

That sucks.  Sorry to hear that boss.   Wish the vaccine was more effective.  My wife’s father died of Covid and they wouldn’t let anyone go to the hospital or the funeral.  Was some crazy stuff. 
 

sorry for your troubles boss   The whole situation sucks 

Edited August 17 by Caveira

[1032004]

29 minutes ago, nick said:

I got Covid twice, never got the vaccine, the first time was horrible, second time wasn’t that bad.

My dad got Covid and didn’t have the vaccine, was in the hospital for 6 months and it killed both of his lungs long term, currently on the transplant list at the Cleveland Clinic (talk about $$$)

My wife got Covid while pregnant, she had the vaccine, she wasn’t really affected and baby was issue free.

Sorry to hear about your dad.  But glad to hear your wife was part of the lucky 18%! (lol @ @Offthemat)

Edited August 18 by 1032004

[JimmySpeaks]

5 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Sorry to hear about your dad.  But glad to hear your wife was part of the lucky 18%! (lol @ @Offthemat)

Wow. Just wow. You really are a Dumbass 21 yr old. 

Edited August 18 by JimmySpeaks

[Offthemat]

31 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Wow. Just wow. You really are a Dumbass 21 yr old. 

Straining for attention.  I thought it was youth causing it, but he claimed to have gray hair, so if he’s being truthful, which is certainly no certainty, I guess it could be arrested development. 

[1032004]

3 hours ago, Offthemat said:

You think there’s some comprehensive database of miscarriages?  Other female problems?  Show me, mf.  There were people trying to get the word out, but they were deleted and banned from social media.  

None of it would have happened if Fauci hadn’t disobeyed direct orders and gone about funding and obscuring the development of the virus.  Lying about it after it got out.  The way the timing laid out for the election, I want Fauci waterboarded until we find out whether it was intentional.  Otherwise, why wouldn’t he have been honest with us about how to react to it.  

Five years ago nearly everything broadcast, everything that came from the gov’t wwere lies.  We all knew that eventually the truth would come out.  

So you question the actual data because there’s not a database of all miscarriages, but you know the Trump vaccine caused an 82% miscarriage rate?  That makes no sense.

To my knowledge, the very source of this 5 year old long-debunked lie, was never banned from social media.

[JimmySpeaks]

23 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

Straining for attention.  I thought it was youth causing it, but he claimed to have gray hair, so if he’s being truthful, which is certainly no certainty, I guess it could be arrested development. 

He finally found a pube.  

[Offthemat]

[1032004]

1 hour ago, JimmySpeaks said:

21 yr old. 

I still can’t tell if you actually believe this

Edited August 18 by 1032004

[JimmySpeaks]

12 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I still can’t tell if you actually believe this

It’s a dead giveaway away. 

[JimmySpeaks]

12 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I still can’t tell if you actually believe this

You’re proof of being part of the only generation to be dumber than their parents.