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1 hour ago, Offthemat said:

That information came from the investigation by the Homeland Security Committee,  based on Fauci's phone,  reported by Sen. Ron Johnson. 

I see in the release Ron Johnson references that false claim which was debunked 5 years ago, but it had nothing to with Fauci commenting on that study, Johnson was just bringing it up separately.

Even if that claim was correct which it isn’t, the original study the false claim was based on was from a study published in April 2021, 3+ months after the text message where Fauci said “theoretically” there could be a risk.

The reason the claim is false is because the original study was only from a period of 2.5 months of people getting the vaccine.   The percentages came from only “completed pregnancies,” but because of the timeframe used most of the pregnancies were not yet completed, and the only way for someone vaccinated early in their pregnancy to have it “completed” was if they had a miscarriage.

Original study - https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2104983

The irony of righties being mad at Fauci for “misinformation” while simultaneously recycling 5 year old previously debunked misinformation is not lost on me.  You can’t make this stuff up.  Well, I guess you can.

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I also watched one of the interviews Ron Johnson did.  Lol at him trying to say that he thinks Operation Warp Speed was a success while simultaneously refusing to call it a vaccine.  Thanks for the laugh, @Offthemat

[Offthemat]

I’m going to go about a quarter of an inch out on a limb and say that Ron Johnson, and every Republican on that committee is smarter than you and has access to more information than you.  It’s a given that they discussed this information together before revealing it.  Now go play in the highway. 

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3 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

I’m going to go about a quarter of an inch out on a limb and say that Ron Johnson, and every Republican on that committee is smarter than you and has access to more information than you.  It’s a given that they discussed this information together before revealing it.  Now go play in the highway. 

I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that I’m smarter than anyone that refuses to call it a vaccine. And I’m sure they discussed it.  That doesn’t mean it’s accurate.   In this case it was already proven wrong 5 years ago which is quite hilarious, sad that you refuse to believe that your marching orders are based on false information.

[Caveira]

5 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that I’m smarter than anyone that refuses to call it a vaccine. And I’m sure they discussed it.  That doesn’t mean it’s accurate.   In this case it was already proven wrong 5 years ago which is quite hilarious, sad that you refuse to believe that your marching orders are based on false information.

How many vaccines in the history of world require 45 boosters ?

it’s a beautiful 39 seconds right?

 

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3 minutes ago, Caveira said:

How many vaccines in the history of world require 45 boosters ?

it’s a beautiful 39 seconds right?

 

The flu vaccine, for starters.

I guess I should mark you down for thinking Operation Warp Speed was a massive failure, correct?

[Caveira]

6 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

The flu vaccine, for starters.

I guess I should mark you down for thinking Operation Warp Speed was a massive failure, correct?

People get 45 boosters for the flu ?   I think your exaggerating 

[Offthemat]

“proven wrong 5 years ago”  

Nobody should trust stated results from the lying clowns who were in control back then.  The injections we’re discussing turned out to be a far cry from what most people consider a vaccine.  There’s some evidence that it helped some older people who had ‘comorbidities’,  in the end it became what Dr. Malone warned about: those who had the most shots were the most susceptible to getting the disease.  The number of people who died from the vaccine, will die from it, have been and will be crippled by it, makes a person doubt the logic of calling it a vaccine.  We’d have been much better off if we’d just used hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin and kicked operation warp speed to the curb. 

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40 minutes ago, Caveira said:

People get 45 boosters for the flu ?   I think your exaggerating 

People got 45 covid boosters?  (And yes, I know there was like one guy that did that).

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22 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

“proven wrong 5 years ago”  

Nobody should trust stated results from the lying clowns who were in control back then.  The injections we’re discussing turned out to be a far cry from what most people consider a vaccine.  There’s some evidence that it helped some older people who had ‘comorbidities’,  in the end it became what Dr. Malone warned about: those who had the most shots were the most susceptible to getting the disease.  The number of people who died from the vaccine, will die from it, have been and will be crippled by it, makes a person doubt the logic of calling it a vaccine.  We’d have been much better off if we’d just used hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin and kicked operation warp speed to the curb. 

Good to know you think Trump is partially responsible for people dying and being crippled from the vaccine.  Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, lololololol.

Your post here is further evidence you are just taking your marching orders.  The claim from Dr Thorp was simply a terrible misinterpretation of someone else’s study.   I’m not even saying his own information is wrong, I’m simply saying he grossly misinterpreted other data.  Which he, and now Ron Johnson, and you, did.

[Caveira]

42 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

People got 45 covid boosters?  (And yes, I know there was like one guy that did that).

Here is the complete unified list of U.S. headcounts and estimates from 0 to 10 doses 

• 0 Shots: 76.5 million people
• 1 Shot: 38.3 million people
• 2 Shots: 100.5 million people
• 3 Shots: 92.5 million people
• 4 Shots: 24.5 million people
• 5 Shots: ~15 million to 20 million people 
• 6 Shots: ~10 million to 12 million people 

• 7 Shots: ~6 million to 8 million people 
• 8 Shots: ~3 million to 5 million people 
• 9 Shots: ~500,000 to 1.5 million people 
• 10 Shots: Fewer than 100,000 people 

Edited August 12 by Caveira

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7 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Here is the complete unified list of U.S. headcounts and estimates from 0 to 10 doses 

• 0 Shots: 76.5 million people
• 1 Shot: 38.3 million people
• 2 Shots: 100.5 million people
• 3 Shots: 92.5 million people
• 4 Shots: 24.5 million people
• 5 Shots: ~15 million to 20 million people 
• 6 Shots: ~10 million to 12 million people 

• 7 Shots: ~6 million to 8 million people 
• 8 Shots: ~3 million to 5 million people 
• 9 Shots: ~500,000 to 1.5 million people 
• 10 Shots: Fewer than 100,000 people 

Ok cool thanks for confirming people didn’t get 45 covid vaccine boosters

[Caveira]

9 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Ok cool thanks for confirming people didn’t get 45 covid vaccine boosters

Ok thank you for confirming people got way too many boosters.   Mainly liberal sheep.  Millions and millions did … what almost 70 ish million got >= 4

Edited August 12 by Caveira

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

Ok thank you for confirming people got way too many boosters.   Mainly liberal sheep.  Millions and millions did … what almost 70 ish million got >= 4

Post your flu numbers @1032004

Here are mine

Using the 2024–25 flu season and ~330 million Americans:

• 0 flu shots: ~186 million
• 1 flu shot: ~144 million
• 2 flu shots: ~1–2 million
• 3 flu shots: ~0
• 4 flu shots: ~0
• 5 flu shots: ~0
• 6 flu shots: ~0
• 7 flu shots: ~0
• 8 flu shots: ~0
• 9 flu shots: ~0
• 10+ flu shots: ~0

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12 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Post your flu numbers @1032004

Here are mine

 

Using the 2024–25 flu season and ~330 million Americans:

• 0 flu shots: ~186 million
• 1 flu shot: ~144 million
• 2 flu shots: ~1–2 million
• 3 flu shots: ~0
• 4 flu shots: ~0
• 5 flu shots: ~0
• 6 flu shots: ~0
• 7 flu shots: ~0
• 8 flu shots: ~0
• 9 flu shots: ~0
• 10+ flu shots: ~0

That’s only one year, compared to your Covid vaccine numbers which were over 5 years. With the overwhelming majority receiving less than 5 Covid vaccine doses, thanks for confirming on average since 2021 people have received less doses of the Covid vaccine than the flu vaccine.

[Caveira]

11 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

That’s only one year, compared to your Covid vaccine numbers which were over 5 years. With the overwhelming majority receiving less than 5 Covid vaccine doses, thanks for confirming on average since 2021 people have received less doses of the Covid vaccine than the flu vaccine.

You’re not a real person.  
  
2 shots is half the population   Compare that to the flu.   You’re one of the most hair splitting disingenuous people on here.   10 shots from some people you probably hang out with … what did the comedians say   But it was a great 39 seconds 

2021 covid 

• 0 Shots: ~85 million
• 1 Shot: ~38 million
• 2 Shots: ~160 million
• 3 Shots: ~45 million
• 4 Shots: ~2–3 million
• 5 Shots: ~500,000
• 6 Shots: ~100,000
• 7 Shots: ~25,000
• 8 Shots: ~5,000
• 9 Shots: ~1,000
• 10 Shots: <1,000

Edited August 12 by Caveira

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10 hours ago, Offthemat said:

Fauci downplayed it.  He tried to say miscarriages happened to 124 out of over 800 women, which, in itself, would be an alarming rate, when in fact it was 124 out of 127 women who were in their first trimester who had miscarriages.  That’s criminal. 

 

5 hours ago, Offthemat said:

That information came from the investigation by the Homeland Security Committee,  based on Fauci's phone,  reported by Sen. Ron Johnson. 

For once, use your brain.

Actually first of all you’re not even stating the correct lie.  The lie is 104/127, not 124/127.

Also, don’t ya think that if the covid vaccine was causing a miscarriage rate of anywhere close to 80%, that the whole world would have noticed?

Think.

[Lipdrag]

3 hours ago, 1032004 said:

The flu vaccine, for starters.

The flu shot is not the same every year. Each annual flu shot is different because influenza is a different strain every year.  Therefore there is no flu booster shot. 

And, the shot each year is more of a guess which strain is going to be active rather than being developed after the commencement of the flu season when we actually know.  

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7 hours ago, Lipdrag said:

The flu shot is not the same every year. Each annual flu shot is different because influenza is a different strain every year.  Therefore there is no flu booster shot. 

And, the shot each year is more of a guess which strain is going to be active rather than being developed after the commencement of the flu season when we actually know.  

All covid doses after the fourth, and for some people after the second or third, were different as well, for the purpose of different Covid strains.

A lot of the traditional vaccines need 2 or 3 doses.

[Caveira]

37 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

All covid doses after the fourth, and for some people after the second or third, were different as well, for the purpose of different Covid strains.

A lot of the traditional vaccines need 2 or 3 doses.

All doses after the fourth lol.   

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20 minutes ago, Caveira said:

All doses after the fourth lol.   

By the time anyone received a fourth dose, it was a year or at least close to a year after their first.

It was two doses to start, similar to many vaccines.

By the time people were getting a fourth, it was similar to the flu vaccine in terms of getting an annual dose.

The main question is the third, so really you’re nitpicking over one dose.   For one, numerous traditional vaccines do have a third dose.   But I would actually say the third dose is one place where I disagreed with the CDC guidance of recommending it for everyone (I only ever got 2).  The data showed that it was really only beneficial to the elderly.  And I would say colleges that required a booster for attendance might be the worst decision of the entire pandemic.

[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

By the time anyone received a fourth dose, it was a year or at least close to a year after their first.

It was two doses to start, similar to many vaccines.

By the time people were getting a fourth, it was similar to the flu vaccine in terms of getting an annual dose.

The main question is the third, so really you’re nitpicking over one dose.   For one, numerous traditional vaccines do have a third dose.   But I would actually say the third dose is one place where I disagreed with the CDC guidance of recommending it for everyone (I only ever got 2).  The data showed that it was really only beneficial to the elderly.  And I would say colleges that required a booster for attendance might be the worst decision of the entire pandemic.

Traditional vaccines are effective.   This one is a joke 

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45 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Traditional vaccines are effective.   This one is a joke 

Even against transmission, before Omicron (~2022), and even moreso before Delta (fall 2021), it was.   And against serious illness and death it remained effective even after that.   I have a feeling that if all the sudden millions of people with measles came to the country more vaccinated people would get that too.   With the rise in true antivax sentiment including an antivaxxer leading the HHS, we might get to find out!

[Caveira]

13 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Even against transmission, before Omicron (~2022), and even moreso before Delta (fall 2021), it was.   And against serious illness and death it remained effective even after that.   I have a feeling that if all the sudden millions of people with measles came to the country more vaccinated people would get that too.   With the rise in true antivax sentiment including an antivaxxer leading the HHS, we might get to find out!

Don’t recall anyone giving polio to someone after getting the vaccine or getting it from someone with the vaccine.   Don’t move the goal posts on what effective actually is.    

Dr. Anthony Fauci contracted COVID-19 multiple times despite being heavily vaccinated. 

His infections became highly publicized milestones during the pandemic and subsequent years: 

First Infection (June 2022): Fauci first tested positive for COVID-19 after having received four shots total (his initial two-dose primary series plus two booster shots). He even had  to be treated with the antiviral drug Paxlovid. 

Subsequent Infections: By August 2024, Fauci had contracted COVID-19 for a third time, despite having up to six total vaccine doses by that point.

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1 hour ago, Caveira said:

Don’t recall anyone giving polio to someone after getting the vaccine or getting it from someone with the vaccine.   Don’t move the goal posts on what effective actually is.    

Polio is super rare.   Measles is a better comparison, of course still far more rare than Covid.  Why don’t you ask your AI about the 2025 measles outbreak in Colorado.