red viking Posted July 4 Author Posted July 4 9 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: You are wrong here. Soon after the jet was gifted to Trump, Trump offered Qatar a security guarantee... this one: “In the event of such an attack, the United States shall take all lawful and appropriate measures — including diplomatic, economic, and, if necessary, military — to defend the interests of the United States and of the State of Qatar and to restore peace and stability,” the order says. Hint: This was flat-out, pure and simple, bribe. Period. Just acoincidence. Just like bondi sending maxwell to a plush camp. Nothing to see. Fighting the Good Fight Against Non-Stop Winger Lies and Hypocrisy
Bigbrog Posted July 4 Posted July 4 On 7/3/2026 at 1:10 AM, GreatWhiteNorth said: Evidence? How about a $400 Million dollar jet that was gifted to Trump from Qatar that he is now flying around in. Umm...the jet was a gift to the US not Trump personally...you guys and your TDS is in strong form lately
fishbane Posted July 4 Posted July 4 1 hour ago, Bigbrog said: Umm...the jet was a gift to the US not Trump personally...you guys and your TDS is in strong form lately Before you call everyone crazy, what was Trumps stated intent for the plane come 2029?
Caveira Posted July 4 Posted July 4 21 minutes ago, fishbane said: Before you call everyone crazy, what was Trumps stated intent for the plane come 2029? No one cares.
fishbane Posted July 4 Posted July 4 3 hours ago, Caveira said: No one cares. Demonstrably untrue. I am sure some people that have no problem with Trump doing this would have a big problem if an elected official they disagree with tried something similar.
Caveira Posted July 4 Posted July 4 13 minutes ago, fishbane said: Demonstrably untrue. I am sure some people that have no problem with Trump doing this would have a big problem if an elected official they disagree with tried something similar. The plane was a gift to the us government via the department of defense. It wasn’t a gift to Trump. You have issues with any of these gifts? Jill Biden (2024): Received an 18-karat gold necklace with diamonds alongside designer perfume from the Emir of Qatar Hillary Clinton (2012): Received a white gold necklace, bracelet, and earrings encrusted with teardrop diamonds from Saudi King Abdullah Ancient Artifacts & Fine Art John F. Kennedy (1961): Received a heavily detailed ivory and wood carved lamp from Indian Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru. Barack Obama (2009): Received a collection of rare, gold-engrossed traditional desert daggers and gold-plated artwork from Saudi King Abdullah Historic Furniture & Ceremonial Gifts Franklin D. Roosevelt (1939): Received a custom-crafted Art Deco silver tea set from Crown Prince Olav and Princess Märtha of Norway right before the outbreak of WWII. Jimmy Carter (1979): Awarded the "Great Order of the Nile" Egypt’s highest state honor made of solid gold, enamel, and synthetic stones—by Egyptian President Anwar Sadat following the historic Camp David Peace Accords.
fishbane Posted July 4 Posted July 4 32 minutes ago, Caveira said: The plane was a gift to the us government via the department of defense. It wasn’t a gift to Trump. You have issues with any of these gifts? Feel free to compare the value of those gifts to the value of the plane. Also feel free to answer my question as to what Trump is going to do with it in 2029?
Bigbrog Posted July 4 Posted July 4 4 hours ago, fishbane said: Before you call everyone crazy, what was Trumps stated intent for the plane come 2029? Was it a gift for Trump or the US?
fishbane Posted July 4 Posted July 4 9 minutes ago, Bigbrog said: Was it a gift for Trump or the US? You didn't answer my question. What is Trump going to do with the plane no later than Jan 1, 2029? It also wasn't just a gift from Qatar, tens of millions of tax payer $$ have been used to modify this gift.
Caveira Posted July 4 Posted July 4 19 minutes ago, fishbane said: Feel free to compare the value of those gifts to the value of the plane. Also feel free to answer my question as to what Trump is going to do with it in 2029? Feel free to get the led out. Or the tds out lol. ALL modern presidents use gifts in their dumb museums Democratic presidents have filled their federal libraries and museums with thousands of high-value, unique foreign gifts. Because these items legally belong to the American people, they are curated by the National Archives (NARA) to showcase the history of U.S. diplomacy. Prominent examples of foreign gifts displayed in Democratic presidential museums include: The Barack Obama Presidential Center (Chicago, IL) The recently opened museum dedicates an entire section on its fourth floor to showcasing spectacular state gifts received during his two terms: [1] The Jewel-Encrusted Sword: A ceremonial, highly detailed sword, gifted to President Obama by the government of Malaysia. The Crocodile Insurance Policy: A highly unique, framed certificate presented by the Chief Minister of Australia's Northern Territory, humorously insuring the President against crocodile attacks during his diplomatic visit. The William J. Clinton Presidential Library (Little Rock, AR) The museum collection holds over 100,000 artifacts, including massive state treasures: The Arab Warrior Statue: A stunning, detailed sculpture of a warrior riding a camel, gifted to Clinton by King Hussein of Jordan. It is prominently displayed to anchor exhibits detailing the administration's Middle East peace negotiations. World Cup Memorabilia: Extravagant ceremonial soccer balls, sports gear, and fine art gifted by various international heads of state to commemorate the U.S. hosting the 1994 FIFA World Cup. The Jimmy Carter Presidential Library (Atlanta, GA) Carter's museum uses gifts to highlight his focus on global human rights and landmark peace treaties: The Great Order of the Nile: A brilliant, solid gold and enamel ceremonial collar, Egypt's highest state honor, gifted by Egyptian President Anwar Sadat following the historic Camp David Peace Accords. Intricate Middle Eastern Carpets: Multiple hand-woven, museum-grade silk tapestries gifted by various Persian Gulf leaders, permanently displayed along the museum's diplomatic timeline galleries. The John F. Kennedy Presidential Library (Boston, MA) The Nehru Ivory Lamp: A deeply intricate, hand-carved ivory and wood decorative lamp gifted by Indian Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru in 1961 to celebrate democratic ties. The Malraux Art Catalog: A luxury, custom-bound collection of fine French art artifacts gifted by French Culture Minister André Malraux during the famous White House gala honoring historic French-American relations.
Bigbrog Posted July 4 Posted July 4 3 minutes ago, fishbane said: You didn't answer my question. What is Trump going to do with the plane no later than Jan 1, 2029? It also wasn't just a gift from Qatar, tens of millions of tax payer $$ have been used to modify this gift. Well I asked my question before yours...also your question is meaningless until you answer my question. I personally don't care right now what may or may not happen in 2029 as I don't spend my days worrying about turning everything that happens or may happen into "Orange Man Bad" (aka TDS). Bottom line you have been incorrect in repeatedly saying it was a gift for Trump... period!
red viking Posted July 4 Author Posted July 4 (edited) 6 hours ago, Bigbrog said: Umm...the jet was a gift to the US not Trump personally...you guys and your TDS is in strong form lately The $1.4 billion in crypto coin profits went all to his personal account(s). So you're 110% full of crap. If u think all these rich foreigners truly thought his bs crypto coin was a great investment, I have a few great glaciers to sell you. In reality, they were paying him off. Its painfully obvious. Edited July 4 by red viking Fighting the Good Fight Against Non-Stop Winger Lies and Hypocrisy
Caveira Posted July 4 Posted July 4 2 minutes ago, red viking said: The $1.4 billion in crypto coin profits went all to his personal account(s). So you're 110% full of crap Gotta stick with the topic boss Donald Trump's cryptocurrency earnings were not a result of diplomatic gifts. Instead, they were generated through legal private business ventures, commercial licensing agreements, and initial token sales launched by his family and affiliated companies..
Bigbrog Posted July 4 Posted July 4 3 minutes ago, red viking said: The $1.4 billion in crypto coin profits went all to his personal account(s). So you're 110% full of crap. If u think all these rich foreigners truly thought his bs crypto coin was a great investment, I have a few great glaciers to sell you. In reality, they were paying him off. Its painfully obvious. Is your TDS so bad you can't keep your outrage for Orange Man Bad topics straight!?!
red viking Posted July 4 Author Posted July 4 1 hour ago, Caveira said: Gotta stick with the topic boss Donald Trump's cryptocurrency earnings were not a result of diplomatic gifts. Instead, they were generated through legal private business ventures, commercial licensing agreements, and initial token sales launched by his family and affiliated companies.. It was a backdoor way of getting paid off personally by domestic and foreign fat cats. Its incredibly obvious. The coin itself is garbage. Fighting the Good Fight Against Non-Stop Winger Lies and Hypocrisy
Caveira Posted July 4 Posted July 4 8 minutes ago, red viking said: It was a backdoor way of getting paid off personally by domestic and foreign fat cats. Its incredibly obvious. The coin itself is garbage. And incredibly legal. So your outrage is a waste of your brain power and time. You should just move on and celebrate the great Fourth of July. I just had some amazing ribs and am now watching the kids light off fireworks
red viking Posted July 4 Author Posted July 4 6 minutes ago, Caveira said: And incredibly legal. So your outrage is a waste of your brain power and time. You should just move on and celebrate the great Fourth of July. I just had some amazing ribs and am now watching the kids light off fireworks Only legal because nobody anticipated a president being corrupt and evil enough to do something like that. Its about as corrupt as u can get, legal or not. Fighting the Good Fight Against Non-Stop Winger Lies and Hypocrisy
Caveira Posted July 4 Posted July 4 6 minutes ago, red viking said: Only legal because nobody anticipated a president being corrupt and evil enough to do something like that. Its about as corrupt as u can get, legal or not. Maybe write your congress dude. Or something. It’s legal. Stop worrying about it. It’s not a big deal. legal acts are not corrupt. Your tds/rds is blinding your brain. Go enjoy the fourth. It’s a great day. Celebrate our 250th with pride. My kids are loving blowing off fireworks Listen to Freebird 10 times in a row. It’s an amazing tune
red viking Posted July 5 Author Posted July 5 16 minutes ago, Caveira said: Legal acts are not corrupt. Another incredibly dumb statement. Wow!! Fighting the Good Fight Against Non-Stop Winger Lies and Hypocrisy
Caveira Posted July 5 Posted July 5 17 minutes ago, red viking said: Another incredibly dumb statement. Wow!! If it isn’t illegal how is it corrupt ? why do you care. You can’t do anything about it. You can’t stop it. It’s legal. He will be out of office before you know it. It doesn’t impact you. It doesn’t impact me. It doesn’t impact anyone in any way. Just go celebrate the forth and the great country you are lucky enough to live in
red viking Posted July 5 Author Posted July 5 21 minutes ago, Caveira said: If it isn’t illegal how is it corrupt ? It doesn’t impact anyone in any way. Thats 110% false. When he gets paid off by billionaires and foreign countries he pays them back with your tax money or other actions and little guys like you get screwed. Corruption and legality aren't exclusive. Fighting the Good Fight Against Non-Stop Winger Lies and Hypocrisy
Caveira Posted July 5 Posted July 5 25 minutes ago, red viking said: Thats 110% false. When he gets paid off by billionaires and foreign countries he pays them back with your tax money or other actions and little guys like you get screwed. Corruption and legality aren't exclusive. Legal. You admitted it 100 times. Go celebrate the 4th
red viking Posted July 5 Author Posted July 5 13 minutes ago, Caveira said: Legal. You admitted it 100 times. Go celebrate the 4th Corruption can be legal. Especially in a corrupt country. Its that simple. Scumbag nation. Fighting the Good Fight Against Non-Stop Winger Lies and Hypocrisy
Caveira Posted July 5 Posted July 5 33 minutes ago, red viking said: Corruption can be legal. Especially in a corrupt country. Its that simple. Scumbag nation. We’re consistently ranked in the top tier of the least corrupt counties in the world
Caveira Posted July 5 Posted July 5 33 minutes ago, red viking said: Corruption can be legal. Especially in a corrupt country. Its that simple. Scumbag nation. We’re consistently ranked in the top tier of the least corrupt counties in the world
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