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Tons? Look at the domestic rankings.. 57kg: #3 Liam Cronin, #4 Daniel Deshazer, #7 Austin Assad, #8 Brady Roark 65kg: #1 Real Woods, #2 Joey McKenna.. no one else in the top 8 74kg: #3 Jerrett Jacques, #4 Quincy Monday, #6 Terrell Barraclough #7 Peyton Hall, #8 Ed Scott 79kg: #6 Ethan Riddle, #7 Kennedy Monday, #8 Muhamed McBryde 86kg: #7 Marcus Coleman, #8 Chris Moore 92kg: #5 Eric Schultz #6 Dustin Plott #7 Hayden Walters, #8 Patrick Brophy 97kg: #4 Ethan Laird, #5 Eric Schultz, #6 Zane Lanham, #7 Gavin Hoffman 125kg: #5 Jordan Wood, #6 Christian Lance, #7 Lucas Stoddard, #8 Alex Semenenko How many of the guys I listed above are you really interested in watching compete? I'd say most weight classes are lucky if they have 5 interesting guys that are post-grad, and 5 guys per weight doesn't exactly scream longevity when it comes to interesting match-ups. Foreigners is the only long term solution. Make it an "US vs them" kind of event where every little kid and unknowing observer has a built in guy to root for, whether the know his backstory or not.

If there was anything on Trump of any value it would have been released years ago. Dems wouldn’t have weighed anything other than if it would bring him down or not. It obviously wouldn’t have or they 100% would have used it. I’m in record saying release it all and anyone that’s guilty of a crime needs to be locked up, including the orange man.

Sorry but a king has already been crowded

I was incorrect overall. Especially in the upper weights (86kg+) that is very well dominated by post-grad wrestlers. And even at the lighter weights, I shouldn't have said "majority." But from 57kg-79kg in flo's domestic rankings, 47% of the top 5 in those weights are still in college. So if you consider essentially half of the talent pool in 6 different weight classes is still in college, it's not the majority but a large portion, and that's just according to the rankings, which doesn't even include college guys that would almost certainly be in the top 5 if they competed in the open division.

It truly sounds like it was written by Jussie. There is no way that was even written by an actual man. Maybe a 14 year old girl probably a limp wristed French man named Jussie.

If Sad ends up not going, I think you'd have to go back to the late 1930s (Johannes Kotkas) to find great wrestlers whose careers were derailed by politics to an even greater extent.

I'd rather two horses in the race than one. Nothing is going to create more parity until we have some sort of salary cap for programs, and then it will be more like the old days of limited scholarships and coaches having to actually be strategic about who gets paid and how much is being offered.

You may be partially right boss. We can agree on that

Bro- I agree with you. Term limits and all that jazz... You're angry and so am I but they are making us angry at each other versus them. It's like we're all pawns on a chessboard and only want to take out each other versus all the pawns going after the king(s). There is strength in numbers but we are being systematically divided through algorithms, direct/indirect propaganda, news, pundits, entertainment etc...

The Washington back woods?

But that’s it boss. They won’t. They will respectively use anything including it/this to make the other team look bad. I have repeatedly said both parties are trash and don’t have our (the people’s) interest in mind. We need term limits. We need them bad. All politicians crave is power and re election.

Idiots. So full of latest gadgetry that they forget they are being filmed. Liars liars pants on fire. Stupid is as stupid does. mspart

The flaw in your logic is that both democrats and republicans could come together and hold those accountable that should be. It's not the Democrats fault People like Epstein and those associated with him committed these crimes... You are naive to think both sides wouldn't use this for political gaines, I would have thought that was assumed. Case in point -MAGA campaigning on releasing the files and then not doing it to gain votes! Come on boss...

I mean, I assume you've heard of Julius Caesar? Maybe founders of a world religion or two/ That's just for starters. And more evidence on them than Trump.

So the left has no moral downside here. They can on one hand not hold themselves to any standard at all. They (Ds) don’t have to get justice for those kids….. Then hold their political rivals accountable for it. To try to score points for the upcoming election. Weird right? seems like politics to me boss. Good old fashioned politics. What’s good for me but not for thee. Also. Release the files.

If there are just as many liberal billionaires donors on the list as billionaire MAGA donors it would be a self inflicted wound to them. They probably weighed the cost/benefit analysis of Taking Trump down and realized it would be world ending for everyone involved so they didn't go there... I think we still all underestimate just what people are willing to do to keep their wealth and power intact. We are on here fighting incessantly because that's exactly what all these oligarchs want. If we ever agreed that we had more in common than we don't and turned our collective ire at them to make things better or face the consequences - it would be devastating to them from both influence and a money perspective. We now are so entrenched on our own tribes that even when there is something basic like kids not going hungry at school or people being allowed to keep firearms (albeit as long as they aren't nuts) out starting point is at the very end of the continuum and we won't even consider it. We disagree just because people are on opposite teams which is ridiculous. The Epstein files are a nuclear bomb and democrats and republicans/MAGA live in the same house. They pass the bomb back and forth and hate each other but neither are willing to detonate it because self preservation is more important than taking out their foe.

If there was anything of value on Trump it would have already been released. It’s that simple.

IKR? RV sure talks about it a lot.

Didn't realize we had an expert among us on pedophiles through history... interesting... gross - but interesting...

I had anticipated your deflection and already started to type the response above. At least now you can take me off your list of asking the same question over and over and over and over and over and well you get the point I'm sure...maybe

I can't speak for all but I can speak for myself about the question that's been repeated on here ad nauseum by the "deflectors" Why weren't democrats screaming about this when Biden was president???? So similar to how liberals have tried to indict Trump on every single thing he does and all of us have become desensitized to it- the same goes for MAGA. We've been hearing about all your crazy nonsense for years about Jewish space lasers, Pizza gate, stolen elections, Tom Hanks being apart of the elite cult that drinks kids' blood and so on... When MAGA started crying about the Epstein files I really didn't pay it much attention because it just seemed like another one of their crazy conspiracy theories so just as all you MAGA folks disregard the left, I disregarded them/you. It wasn't until I saw the parade of people brought into the White House holding binders with "Epstein Files" printed on them and subsequently those people being disappointed by the non release of information and the botching and double speak of the AG that I really started to pay attention. Then when Trump started screaming about how it's a Hoax by the democrats and tried a million things to redirect public attention I thought, "hey, he's really scared shitless by this..." Now last week you have the speaker of the house claiming he was an FBI informant which the White House denies (because we all know 99% of FBI informants are typically nefarious people themselves trying to save their own a$$) You also have him going after Massie and others calling it a hostile act to be transparent with the files and it's really hard to ignore there isn't something damaging to him in some way in them. You also had Massie release a name from the Epstein Black book this week that was a major Trump donor... (Again I'm certain there are those in both parties that are implicated) Do I want Trump to get what's always been coming to him? Absolutely. But I also don't care if it drags down all these other elites and republicans/democrats alike if they are guilty of said crimes or engaging in the covering up of them. You don't have to be a pedo to be complicit and held accountable. So that is my explanation, and there has been a MONUMENTAL effort by the MAGAs on here to deflect and change the subject but no one has directly mentioned Trump by name and said "If Trump is on it, he should go down with all of them and all his connections and circumstial evidence of at least some level of involvement are suspicious at the absolutely least."

But why didn’t they?

I believe they meet early in the tourney.

What you described isn't deflection... deflection is changing course, deviating from the subject, changing the subject altogether or engaging in whataboutism. Your point is invalidated in that the example itself is not at all what deflection is. Examples of deflection from the MAGA folks have been more along the lines of: "the files are compromised, we'll never see them anyways..." "Why didn't they get released under Biden???" "Bill Clinton this and that..." and so on...