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The Mat's article of that USA greco team... GRECO-ROMAN VICTORY: Behind the scene at the 2007 World Championships | USA Wrestling D3

Sultangali, the Kazakh who beat Black, is into the semi's with an upset. So Black and Sancho still possibly alive pending the semi-final results.

I think it's like tennis or track--not team sports--because of it being individual. If you ask AI, "Who are the greatest American tennis players of all-time?" it will spit out a mixed list of men and women, with Serena Williams rightfully listed first and Pete Sampras rightfully listed before Chris Evert, for example. Then, it further lists the best men and the best women separately. I think this is logical for individual sports. There's one discussion of someone's quality and impact, no matter the gender, and another discussion by gender to compare athletes within their spheres.

It wasn't that, It was the part about being the son his father that I appreciated...

And I'll vouch for the dirty, mangy dog that named him Sue...

Sun vs son... I've never said I was a wizard of typing... ... vs a wizard of the keyboard. (You're welcome, by the way. ) D3

I'll cede the obvious point that there are less female participants. Two counterpoints, because I'm interested in your thoughts: First: Wrestling is a novel sport. Women's wrestling shouldn't count in any way as a "first generation" sport because of how the athletes were grafted into and competing within an already established system against opponents (boys) in that system and with the established coaches and in the same households of that system. Any girl 25 or younger has been groomed to the same level as her male counterpart for her entire journey, with no missing piece of training, knowledge, or competition level. It's no different from African & Asian track and field athletes from non-traditional nations now winning medals in things like javelin and sprints that they never won before. Those athletes are being sent to academies and training programs in the US and Europe at a young age, where they're grafted into a long-established system. Women's wrestling is completely different from emerging women's soccer opportunities globally, for example, where the generations of time needed to establish competition levels and training frameworks is much higher. Secondly: Even if we had only 30% of the current number of boys participating in wrestling in the US; if we had the same coaches, the same number of competition opportunities, the same number of university slots available, and the same level of fan support--the slight reduction in overall athleticism would be almost completely offset by the training and experience built up by those 70% of different athletes who got to inhabit the high-end opportunities from a young age. The level we'd see at NCAAs would see only a mild drop-off. Again, I'd say this: even though Helen Maroulis started out at a time that the girls around her wouldn't have had this fully developed system across the full depth of nations, the fact that she keeps winning now against the generation who DID have it from the time they were 6 or 8 years old onward validates all that she's accomplished and should put her in a general discussion as one of our 3 or 4 best wrestlers ever.

No she does not. Argue between John Smith and Jordan Burroughs. Also, Adeline has more gold and as many as JB. She just didn't get it at Olympics. Also, I'll probably never mix mens and womens when discussing GOAT. Seems silly. Do we do that with any other sport?

Nothing went his way and it all snowballed. We have never seen him have to dig himself out of a hole. He wasn't able to get that even started against Armenia.

Saravi need to pick up the pace , this Russian he face next can score and has great cardio.

Sohrabi eliminated 4_2 Saravi couldn't' turn melia (geo) but made it to the semis 1-1 criteria. He face a Russian who beat rosillo (Cuba) 7-4 .

That is what Pyles asked Snyder about. It's a quote of the interview question. Sorry, I don't quite understand what you mean, so I can't answer your question.

Some questions for people ponder: Can the FCC revoke a networks license? Do Networks have a license? Does the FCC regulate cable tv stations like CNN or Fox? What is the public Interest Standard? Has the FCC ever threatened stations before? Have the threats ever led to a license being revoked? If so how often does this happen? What is the difference between content and rules violations? Has or would the FCC revoking a stations license hold up in court against the first amendment? Should people be more concerned about this or a new bi-partisan social media bill impacting speech on the internet?

I think when the Dems tried this particular spin; everyone realized this is and has been their consistent tactic. Unfortunately for them everyone watched the entire interview and then knew who was really doing the spinning.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say most likely not. This is probably in the category of the very fine people and the Russia hoax. I'm sure that's why we're only talking about it with no actual quote or sound bite.

So he didn't mock Pelosi for almost being beaten to death and he didn't call the guy who did it a patriot and encouraged people to bail him out when he was arrested?

It's too bad we don't have better Greco. 2007 was the peak for us there.

Ghanem wins his quarter and will be a slight favorite in his semi. Sadly, even if Sancho is brought back in, the Armenian-Iranian-Kazakh gauntlet he'd have to run to win a medal will be stronger than any run of wins he's put together before. Sorry to be all doom and gloom, but the Kazakh and Georgian are both 8 seeds about to face 1 seeds with strong credentials in their quarterfinal bouts. A lot would have to go well for Black and Foy, as with Sancho, to see us get into medal contention.

What doesn't make sense? Some schools know they have a good 'pincher' for it. Other schools don't chance it. This runs rampant at every level there are alpha certifications. Some will do it as early as they can, and some make their guys get down to the weight and have ZERO fails along the hydration portion of it (interesting, huh?). It is also why we see stark contrasts between teams like Iowa State and Penn State with their certifications. Hell, the reason for the failures of the gents for Iowa State, I would wager, are due to hydration.

Ragusin isn't down to weight. He weighed 133.1-141.0. Also, they are still held to the 1.5% per week after the initial test.

Kudos gentlemen for the updates...

What about announcers? Can anyone corroborate the disgusting 'bowling slur' that was uttered by the UK guy at 6:50 in the end of period break of the Jax semi final match while Uguev is being towel fanned? I know 2 people with this PFDS and I'm worried it may spread like a virus.

randy lewis i know what your saying just conversing

Maybe converse and not argue!