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They’ve been stealing and harming civilians since they took power around 2006. …. And likely before. Pretending this is new is weak on your part

This is some of the dumbest thinking I've seen from the wingers. Like Hamas is gonna just sit back and starve to death because the aid is "intended for" civilians? You seriously can't make this stuff up. The dumb wingers drink the red-tinted mainstream media Kool aid on a daily basis.

Dude, it was a moment of weakness and you will be readmitted to the realm of the sane after a short time out. Did you also believe the Jews are starving the children of Gaza like the NYT published? Or were you still on your game and KNOW that the Hamas-holes are interceding on all humanitarian aid because the suffering of Arabs is what they need?

Going back to 2020 vandalism is pathetic whrn radical wingers are committing mass shootings/ murders on a weekly basis recently.

Payback is gonna suck. I'd normally oppose democrats being as nasty as Trump but no more. I'll just watch while having my popcorn. Won't feel sorry for the wingers no matter what happens. You'll deserve whatever you get.

More straight white male conservatives on the loose. Not actually doing anything but staging others to do it. Probably via mind-control. https://www.jns.org/nyt-building-vandalized-after-gaza-story-correction-issued/ Schadenfreude is a terrible thing to feel and I am not happy with myself right now . . . There, I'm over it.

Breaking news from RV. BLM and all of the riots during the summer of 2020 were staged by straight white male straight conservatives. Of course, it is a vast conspiracy. Started in 1619, natch.

More folks should move to the Jerseys ... it keeps them out of the nice parts of America.

He represents Hormozgan. Couldn't find anything on if he is actually from there or just representing them.

I went with 2017. Jesse makes 2023 an enticing choice but that was not near peak of his powers Jesse. I feel the same way about JO in the 2010 bracket. 2017 I believe had the most future world team members as well with 4.

Ah ok that makes more sense. I was trying to remember if I saw Tat anywhere so that makes sense tbh. Hopefully he does well in worlds. Is he Mazani or is he Tehrani? I remember Khateri going to Armenia and doing poorly but I think everyone that went was really bad even Dadmarz. It's a shame that khateri has fallen off since he won u17 worlds but he is still super young so he may end up being a world beater in a couple years time. Maybe the higher weight suits him better than 57kg

I mean Russia did the whole PWL thing with us and USA so I wouldn't be surprised if similar events happen again. But I reckon smaller wrestling countries might for example Hungary or Serbia. I agree those with established wrestling traditions probably not but those developing or want to be potentially. But it is a stretch tbh.

I’m concerned about his Shoulder. Barzegar after his match with Ramazanov was saying what happened to his Shoulder was intentional. I don’t know myself but I guess Barzegar knows a thing or two about wrestling.

They were not happy with Pirdayeh's performance after Asian juniors so they held a mini trial at 65 between him and 3 other wrestlers. This Tat guy won it. That's all I know about him. He hasn't been on any teams previously. As for Khateri, he is only on the team because the 61 at asian champs came fifth. I guess they think he can do better or just want to give someone else a chance. They sent Khateri to a junior tournament in Armenia a few months ago and he didn't do well so I wouldn't expect much.

Yeah. Even though I’ve got a lot of issues with Dabir, I gotta admit he’s done some good for wrestling - even if it’s mostly for his own political gain. I mean, he could’ve easily gotten just as much funding (or more) from the regime and done nothing useful at all. Take Arash Miresmaeili, for example - he’s politically aligned with Dabir, but we all know how he’s pretty much wrecked judo. But honestly, do you think countries like Armenia, Japan, or Russia are actually gonna pay us to compete? I doubt it. Football’s a whole different beast. The thing is, wrestling doesn’t even have the revenue potential that the MMA world does, because people - especially in wealthy countries - just don’t have the patience to watch two guys pushing each other around the mat for six minutes. That’s not Dabir’s fault though. To really make money off wrestling, the whole UWW’s policies and wrestling rules have gotta change.

For the record I'm absolutely against Dabir and his political agenda. I also believe that some aspects of his leadership have been a net positive for Iranian wrestling. Both things can be true at the same time. However, I also agree with you that this is probably not the right place for politics especially Iranian given the recent couple of years. My personal opinion is that Dabir uses wrestling as a way for him to establish political legitimacy within the regime and by extension gain more soft power within Iran's sporting bodies. However, generating income through such partnerships with other countries is not a bad idea at all. For example if Armenia wants to pay us money to train with them we should definitely take that up same with Japan, Russia etc. In football, the top countries demand money to play friendly matches why can't we do the same thing?

For sure I'm just saying that for Yazdani the only thing that matters is an olympic and world title. Beating Tazhudinov in Asians and then losing to him at worlds and olympics is meaningless. Tazhudinov is entering his prime whilst Yazdani is slowly entering out of it so by the time they meet I'm worried it might end up a mauling by Tazhudinov.

Yeah, you might be right. Honestly, I can only really see Dabir’s moves through a political lens - but I’m not gonna get into that here, ‘cause I don’t want this thread going off-topic. You don’t wanna see Hasan vs. Sadulaev? If that match goes down, it’s gonna be way more exciting than just winning a title, don’t you think?

With his shoulder I’m happier seeing him wrestling Tazhudinov than Sadulaev till he has settled as I think it will be more technical and less physical with Tazhudinov. I’m also ok with him starting at the shallow rather than the deep end. Some ranking events etc will be good preparation.

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Some ball are held for charity and some for fancy dress, but when they're held for pleasure they're the balls that I like best.

Its interesting that apart from the one off matches against Snyder and Tazhudinov, the only other guys who have been able to nearly beat him have been our own (Goleij and Ghasempour). With all due respect to both guys Yazdani is a class above them both so you would expect Yazdani being capable to beat Sadulaev. From now on his team should be analysing and developing game plans on how to beat the top guys at 97kg and preparing him for when he steps back onto the mat. I know that Mohammadian is now a coach so maybe him and Reza Yazdani can work alongside him to prep for the transition to 97kg. The only thing that matters to Iranians is world and olympic medals and Asia is pretty shallow at the heavier weight classes even if you are Russian transfers. But its possible the first Yazdani vs Tazhudinov match up will happen at Asians in 2026/2027.

This is really strange tbh. However it sort of tracks with what they've been doing in recent years. It seems that they are trying to establish soft power within the wrestling world by inviting other countries' wrestling teams to Iran and sending their own guys there as well. From memory Tajikistan, Hungary and Armenia have brought their wrestling teams to train in Iran with our senior guys. I reckon they must have received some sort of benefits to send these guys there either financially or politically. Dabir was talking about making the wrestling federation self funded and developing revenue streams so I imagine this might be a part of that either directly or indirectly.

Yeah I think the US guys' biggest problem is translating their style to international wrestling initially but I think that's largely being overcome with FS being more integrated into US wrestling from an earlier age. Also the new gen of coaches like J'den Cox are going to be passing on their knowledge as well so I don't think its going to be a major problem by the 2028 olympics as you said but I think you guys will still be a force this year too. When it comes to Iran light weights they are incredibly inconsistent one tournament they look unbeatable and another one they look like its their first time wrestling on the mat. Ahmad Javan is quite young and I think he has potential to be a medal threat at 61kg but that largely hinges upon him not being leg laced back to Iran every time he gets taken down. Considering he isn't Mazani as well I'm curious to see his performance. His province Khorasan Razavi has been doing quite well in the lighter weight classes at junior levels domestically so it would be nice to see their hard work bring home a world medal.

Yes I agree - it’s going to be difficult to get a world medal for him but I guess he is going to give it his best shot and there may be surprises if he does manage to reinvent himself and adapt his style. I worry about him wrestling Sadulaev as our wrestlers have had injuries after wrestling him( I think Goliej knee got hurt badly? and it was rough for Ghassempour too I think). I see him winning ranking events and medal at Asian championship though relatively readily so he has things that he may reasonably be expected to achieve.