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Yes, I need to know this as well.
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Betcha they could...
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Beef tallow is amazing. I make my own when i have extra beef fat. You should try.
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We started our All-Quarter Century feature by looking at a prominent Big Ten program, and today, we’re circling back to the B1G to look at another. Illinois. Illinois is a program that has seen a lot of star power come through Champaign in the last 25 years. Our first team contains six different NCAA champions - including one we saw in action just a few months ago. In the early part of the time observed, Illinois captured a Big Ten title and had a couple other near misses. With some momentum from 2025 and talented recruiting classes on the horizon, they could get back in the B1G title hunt sooner rather than later. While a lot of the first team was relatively easy to figure out there were overall some tough decisions and omissions. First and foremost, at 157/165. 157 has been a great weight for the Illini with three national finalists wrestling there since 2001. Throw in the fact that Isaiah Martinez wrestled at 157 and 165 there were some difficult choices to make. Martinez has to be on the first team. The decision came between Mike Poeta (157) and Matt Lackey (165). Martinez would go one weight and someone excellent would be bumped to the second team. Another decision came at 133 lbs. Big Ten champion and All-American Mark Jayne wasn’t on one of the top three teams. You could probably make an argument that he might be worthy of a second-team selection, as Zane Richards and BJ Futrell all had very strong careers, but a case could be made for Jayne. Wrestlers considered for the three teams had to compete from 2001 to 2025. For the wrestlers early in this timeframe, their entire collegiate body of work was considered. Only collegiate results were taken into consideration. Even if a wrestler was successful at multiple weights, they were only selected for one weight - typically, it was based on the strongest possible first team. After the three All-Century teams, there are some fun facts about Cornell’s results over the past 25 years. Here are the programs we’ve already covered Cornell Lehigh Minnesota Missouri NC State First Team 125 lbs - Jesse Delgado: Gilroy, California - 3x AA (1,1,7), 2x NCAA champion, 2x Big Ten champion 133 lbs - Lucas Byrd: Cincinnati, Ohio* - 3x AA (1,5,5), 2025 NCAA champion, 2025 Big Ten champion 141 lbs - Jimmy Kennedy: Ingleside, Illinois - 3x AA (5,5,4), 2008 Big Ten runner-up, NCAA #2 seed 149 lbs - Adam Tirapelle: Clovis, California - 3x AA (1,2,3), 2001 NCAA champion, 2000 Big Ten champion 157 lbs - Isaiah Martinez: Lemoore, California - 4x AA (2,2,1,1), 2x NCAA champion, 4x Big Ten champion 165 lbs - Matt Lackey: Moline, Illinois - 3x AA (1,2,3), 2003 NCAA champion, 2x Big Ten champion 174 lbs - Jordan Blanton: Richmond, Illinois - 3x AA (7,4,5), 2010 Big Ten 3rd place 184 lbs - Pete Friedl: Orland Park, Illinois - 3x AA (3,4,7), 2005 Big Ten champion, 2x Big Ten finalist 197 lbs - Pat Quirk: Hinsdale, Illinois - 2x AA (2,8), 2001 Big Ten champion 285 lbs - John Lockhart: Mahomet, Illinois - 3x AA (3,1,7), 2001 NCAA champion, 2001 Big Ten runner-up Second Team 125 lbs - Kyle Ott: Huber Heights, Ohio - 2x AA (2,2), 2x Big Ten runner-up, NCAA #3 seed 133 lbs - Zane Richards: Carbondale, Illinois - 2x AA (7,4), 2016 Big Ten runner-up, NCAA #3 seed 141 lbs - Dylan Duncan: Winfield, Illinois - 1x AA (5), 4x national qualifier, 2018 Big Ten 3rd place 149 lbs - Eric Terrezas: Wheaton, Illinois - 2x national qualifier 157 lbs - Mike Poeta: Highwood, Illinois - 3x AA (2,2,3), 2x Big Ten champion, 2x NCAA #2 seed 165 lbs - Conrad Polz: Orland Park, Illinois - 2x AA (5,8), 2013 Big Ten runner-up 174 lbs - John Dergo: Morris, Illinois - 1x AA (5), 2010 Big Ten champion, NCAA #2 seed 184 lbs - Brian Glynn: Orland Park, Illinois - 2x AA (3,6), 2005 Big Ten runner-up 197 lbs - Tyrone Byrd: Clinton, Illinois - 4x national qualifier, 2006 Big Ten runner-up 285 lbs - John Wise: Pittsfield, Illinois - 1x AA (7), 2009 Big Ten 3rd place Third Team 125 lbs - Gabe Flores: Madera, California - 3x national qualifier, NCAA Round of 12 finisher, 2008 Big Ten 3rd place 133 lbs - BJ Futrell: Park Forest, Illinois - 2x AA (6,8), 2012 Big Ten 3rd place, NCAA #4 seed 141 lbs - Steven Rodriguez: Mount Kisco, New York - 1x AA (5), 3x national qualifier, 2016 Big Ten 3rd place 149 lbs - Kannon Webster*: Toulon, Illinois - 2025 national qualifier, NCAA Round of 12 finisher, 2025 Big Ten runner-up 157 lbs - Alex Tirapelle: Clovis, California - 2x AA (4,2), 2x Big Ten champion, 2x NCAA #1 seed 165 lbs - Jackson Morse, Alto, Michigan: 1x AA (4) 174 lbs - Zac Brunson: Eugene, Oregon: 1x AA (6), NCAA Round of 12 finisher, 2016 Big Ten runner-up 184 lbs - Emery Parker: Wadsworth, Illinois: 2x AA (5,3), 2019 Big Ten 3rd place 197 lbs - Mario Gonzalez: Aurora, Illinois: 3x NCAA Round of 12 finisher, 2012 Big Ten champion 285 lbs - Luke Luffman: Urbana, Illinois: 4x national qualifier, NCAA Round of 12 finisher Fun Facts During this quarter-century, six Illinois wrestlers have combined to win eight NCAA titles Illinois wrestlers have made the national finals 17 times during this time span Coming into the 2000’s Illinois had never produced a two-time national champion - now they have two (Delgado, Martinez) Illinois has finished in the top ten at the NCAA Championships ten times since 2001. The 2001 team’s fifth-place finish is the highest and features the most team points (89). Illinois has put wrestlers on the NCAA podium 54 times since 2001, plus an NWCA First Team All-American in 2020 5 Illini wrestlers earned All-American honors in both 2004 and 2005 - the highest total during this span In 2018, Isaiah Martinez became the first Illinois wrestler to win the Big Ten four times and earn All-American honors four times Isaiah Martinez’s 2015 national title made him the first freshman to finish the season undefeated since Cael Sanderson in 1999 The 2005 Illinois team captured its only Big Ten team title during this quarter century They finished second in the Big Ten on three other occasions Despite winning the 2005 Big Ten title, the team’s high point total at that event came in 2001 (130.5 points) The 2001 team had a pair of NCAA champions (Ad. Tirapelle and Lockhart), one of only three times in team history they’ve had multiple champs and the only time in the period observed. 13 Illinois wrestlers have combined to win 20 Big Ten titles in the past 25 years Illini wrestlers have been seeded #1 at the NCAA Tournament 9 times in this quarter century, with Isaiah Martinez having four times himself Illinois has been led by three different head coaches this quarter century: Mark Johnson, Jim Heffernan, and Mike Poeta The top-five wrestlers on the school’s all-time wins list all wrestled in this era (Al. Tirapelle, Ad. Tirapelle, Friedl, Kennedy, Lockhart) Nine of the ten first-team members were at least three-time All-Americans Illinois has been able to ink the #1 overall recruit once during this quarter century (Poeta/2004) Since 2001, 11 California natives have won NCAA titles. Three of them (Ad. Tirapelle, Delgado, Martinez) wore the block I for Illinois. -
as per flo / bunch of guys capable of a top 8 finish on this list of 24/ is it march yet 1 SO Vincent Robinson NC State 1 2 JR Troy Spratley OK State 2 3 SO Luke Lilledahl Penn State 3 4 SR Eddie Ventresca Virginia Tech 4 5 SR Sheldon Seymour Lehigh 5 6 SR Jett Strickenberger West Virginia 6 7 SR Stevo Poulin Iowa State 7 8 JR Jore Volk Minnesota 8 9 SR Dean Peterson Iowa 9 10 JR Nicolar Rivera Wisconsin 10 11 JR Trever Anderson UNI 11 12 JR Nico Provo Stanford 12 13 SR Spencer Moore Illinois 13 14 SR Jacob Moran Indiana 14 15 SR Blake West Northern Illinois 15 16 SR Maximo Renteria Oregon State 16 17 SR Cooper Flynn Chattanooga 17 18 SO Marc-Anthony McGowan Princeton 18 19 JR Brendan McCrone Ohio State 19 20 JR Max Gallagher Penn 20 21 SR Diego Sotelo Michigan 21 22 SR Kysen Terukina North Carolina 22 23 FR Brady Roark SD State 23 24 JR Keyveon Roller Virginia 24
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Karami is built the same way, if those two meet in the finals, it will be a matchup of two very similar body types
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It’s fun watching people who want to see a particular president fail so much they can’t be happy with good moves for their country.
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This is truth. No guarantees in life, learned that more ways than one. You can eat clean, exercise, still end up with some rare form of cancer. All you can do is make conscious decisions based on good information along with some common sense, and give yourself the best chances. For example, pay good attention before walking out into the street and your chances of not getting hit by that bus increase….but doesn’t mean the driver can’t pop the curb…
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Watching Stewart's match, Zangiev is looks like Wick/Hamiti in build, he easily could be 86kg if he fills out, and I would not be surprised to see him at 92 or even 97 eventually
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Last sentence is gold. "At publishing time, sources indicated that zero people so far had been arrested for the Russia collusion." https://babylonbee.com/news/investigation-concludes-trump-is-the-only-one-who-didnt-collude-with-russia That last sentence is, of course, parody because many people have been arrested and their lives ruined over this hoax. The "funny" part is they were innocent.
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I’ll bet not a single member of congress could pass it.
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It’s like anything else, you eat and drink that stuff for 60 or 70 years and your health could decline. Or you can eat a salad (which we still haven’t discovered in any cave drawings) push that slice of pi away, walk out and get hit by a bus.
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I bet Trump couldn't pass it.
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Can I ask you a serious question, and I already know this is going to come across wrong. I see people spend countless hours on stuff like this, and I am thankful. BUT, are you retired? IF not retired, are you self-employed? Kids? Again, I know I sound like a d*ck, I do not want it to come across like that, but I find myself at times not being able to eat lunch because of my job, or running around. I am fascinated when people can do all of this stuff, or spend countless hours on social media. I get Willie, he does this for a living, but some of you guys can post all over social media and spend hours on posts like this. That Nh dude, hell I see him all over too. I guess what I am saying, I am jealous as hell that I do not get to enjoy life to spend this much time in forums and social media. I will get back to the group, I may quit my job as I talk through this. signed- truly jealous PS. I just looked. you have over 10K posts on this forum. That simply amazes me. I am going to say again, without you type of guys, we do not get to go brag about stats and data to our buddies like we came up with it ourselves.
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Can't let @Wrestleknownothing have all the fun. Let’s kick things off with a head-scratcher from the NCAA archives… Nash Tillman wrestled in three NCAA tournaments, competed in five matches, but faced only three different opponents. But here’s the real trivia bomb: He lost to the same opponent in consecutive matches, not just once, but TWICE, in back-to-back years—each time against a different guy! The Breakdown: Year Weight Round Opponent School Result Score 1964 147 champ 32 Dino Boni Pittsburgh (Pa) Win 5-3 (dec) 1964 147 champ 16 Veryl Long Iowa State Loss 0-4 (dec) 1965 147 champ 32 Veryl Long Iowa State Loss 1-2 (dec) 1965 147 consi 8 #2 Loren Miller San Jose State (Ca) Loss Fall 4:44 1966 145 champ 32 Loren Miller San Jose State (Ca) Loss 1-2 (dec) In ‘64 and ‘65, Nash’s tournament run ended with back-to-back losses to Veryl Long. In ‘65 and ‘66, he finished with consecutive losses to Loren Miller! Has anyone else ever had a string of losses to the same opponent in consecutive NCAA tournaments? Or is Nash Tillman in a league of his own? I would have thought having consecutive losses to the same opponent would be very rare, however, since 1929 it seems to have happened around 90 times (still doing some validating on some). Any guesses for recent wrestlers who fall into this bucket?
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those that have been around Spratley, knew he had a true shot at it. I missed his 1st year at OSU, I will admit, I thought he would have done better. With that being said, Lightning Luke is going to be hard to beat this year and that is my call for the title.
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No clue. Historically we are weak at HW. Just recently it changed somewhat. Our junior heavies are pretty bad this year. We will see what this guy can do at cadets. Will certainly be some interesting semi finals.
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The Presidential Fitness Test is back.
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Will someone check this guy’s math?!? Kidding, kidding—but let’s put Charlie Heard’s 1984 run under the microscope for a second. Now @Wrestleknownothing did say, “I give you the guys who racked up the points on the way to victory.” But if you throw in that 6-7 loss to Bob Hallman, Charlie’s tournament total jumps to 102 points. That actually puts him at the very top for single-year scoring—talk about piling it on! Wrestling stats never sleep! When you include losses in the list the order changes slightly (turns out scoring a lot of points is correlated with winning).
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Well if you actually looked into it instead of just counting on YouTube for your knowledge, you would see that is part of the agenda as well. However, it’s not like ‘eat less exercise more’ is some new ideological breakthrough here in the 2020’s, and being smart enough to know that no matter what, millions of Americans are still going to drink their sodas, and millions of Americans are still going to eat their fried foods, and a lot of people are still going to eat more than they exercise even with the wealth of knowledge that has been available in that topic for decades…. working to improve the ingredients that goes into those items is a positive step in the right direction. Is it overhyped, maybe, welcome to politics. Doesn't mean improvements aren't being made.
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Mills up now Iran puts 4 of 5 in the semis really impressed by all the guys I saw really like this Boustani kid definitely looks like he will grow into a 65 at some point if not bigger.
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I didn’t say you said it. But people have, like the Ice Cream guy in the OP. Even RFK claimed “MAHA is winning” when announcing Steak and Shake will be frying their fries in beef tallow. That’s going to make pretty much no difference in getting people healthier. What MAHA should probably be focusing on is doing more to encourage people to eat less, and exercise more.
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@shiraz321 I need to know the training protocols for Irans heavies why are they all so damn big and mature at cadets.
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Well first, as is said, both Coke and Diet Coke have *I poop my pants, don't laugh at me* in them so I don’t know I would dub either healthy (what the f**k is the problem with people’s reading comprehension around here). Much like natural cane sugar is a better option than manufactured chemical sweetner, naturally rendered beef tallow is a better option than ultra processed seed oils. Does that make French fries “healthy”, no. But American loves its fries and is not going to give them up. So it’s an improvement. you can keep your YouTube link. I didn’t say anything about diet soda making you fat (that while reading comprehension thing pops up again) Food/nutrition is something I’ve taken very seriously my entire life.
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Mills still to go. Kikinou and Burnett in the semis Taylor lost in the r16 Stewart lost in the quarters to a very impressive russian 10-4. Got stepped over looking for a lace seemed to be the big difference maker. I expect him to get pulled back in. Iran has the ability to still put 4 in the semis their 80kg guy looks very good, Kikinou wrestles an Iranian in the semis.
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