125 Early Favorite: M. DeAugustino Contender(s): None Spot Starter(s): C. Tanefeu, C. Horwath B1G Prediction: M. DeAugustino NCAA Prediction: Mid AA (3-6) I think we see DeAuggie man the spot when it matters aside for when he needs rest. I expect the smaller Tanefeu to get some spot starts here and there. I hope we can see Horwath getting reps down at 125 as I do expect him to get the Rogers treatment. Spot starts at 125/133 to get his five (5) weigh-ins done. I think DeAuggie keeps the injury and HEW bug away and he brings home hardware. 133 Early Favorite: C. Cannon Contender(s): None Spot Starter(s): W. Tanefeu, C. Horwath B1G Prediction: C. Cannon NCAA Prediction: Mid AA (3-6) Much the same as above, just with Cannon and the 'larger' Tanefeu. Horwarth and possibly Lemley to get spot starts, although I expect Lemley to be 141/149 on his spot starts. 141 Early Favorite: D. Ragusin Contender(s): N. Jerore Spot Starter(s): S. Lemley B1G Prediction: D. Ragusin NCAA Prediction: Mid AA (3-6) Ragusin likely gets the nod here unless he redshirts (which he has the option to). Perhaps they play around with Lemley as an option here until it is decided on Ragusin (rumor is it is not yet). With 149 being the 'up-in-the-air' weight, I expect Lemley at 141 for the sake of bumping for at least some of his five (like Rogers). I also don't think Ragusin redshirts unless Lemley comes in and blows some shit up. To be clear, I only believe Jerore is a contender because Ragusin might still use a redshirt. 149 Early Favorite: F. Mayora Contender(s): D. Gilcher Spot Starter(s): S. Lemley B1G Prediction: D. Gilcher NCAA Prediction: R12/R16 I fully expect Mayora to get the nod to start the season. I don't know that he will at the end of the season. Gilcher is ready to go straight out of the gate and while Lemley may be undersized... he might be as well. If either Gilcher or Lemley show signs of awesomeness and can limit injury or Frosh burnout... I do expect one to get the nod at B1Gs. Hopefully that decision can be made a good while prior to B1Gs for qualification/seeding purposes. I think NCAAs as a true frosh at 149 is going to be a helluva grind and will wear on Gilcher when the time comes. 157 Early Favorite: W. Lewan Contender(s): None Spot Starter(s): B. Mantanona B1G Prediction: W. Lewan NCAA Prediction: Mid AA (3-6) Like other weights, the obvious favorite is already written in stone. I expect Mantanona to get spot starts at both 157 and 165 to get to his five weigh-ins. I don't care what you say, Lewan can win this weight. He has that potential. Will he? No. 165 Early Favorite: C. Amine Contender(s): None Spot Starter(s): B. Mantanona, Z. Mattin, J. Consuelos B1G Prediction: C. Amine NCAA Prediction: Contender/Mid AA (1-6 range) Calling my shot here. Having Griffith in the room will help him take that next step. I expect a spot start or two from Mattin and the obvious 'donor' spot start or three for Consuelos if not at this weight then 157 or 174... whichever route he goes. Mantanona should get a look or two in at 165 as well. 174 Early Favorite: S. Griffith Contender(s): None Spot Starter(s): Z. Mattin, J Consuelos, J. Knudten B1G Prediction: S. Griffith NCAA Prediction: Contender/Mid AA (1-6 range) Yeah... I think Griffith could win it all at 174... with or without Stalrocci there. We could see some amalgamation of spot starters... depending on Griffith's load. 184 Early Favorite: R. Rogers Contender(s): J. Walker Spot Starter(s): C. Khawaja B1G Prediction: R. Rogers NCAA Prediction: Low AA/R12 (6-R12 range) I think Rogers will take some lumps... but health permitting could contend for a high AA spot. I think R12/Low AA is more realistic at this point and that is what we will see. Walker settling in and getting some starts to alleviate load will help down the line... but might hurt seeding and AQ chances... so placing at B1Gs might be of a high priority. 197 Early Favorite: None Contender(s): B. Yatooma, B. Striggow, J. Bullock, J Cummings, H. Walters Spot Starter(s): See Above B1G Prediction: J. Bullock NCAA Prediction: R12/R16 There is no favorite so there is no spot starters. If Walters cements himself as a clear favorite... expect him to get the nod. I still believe in Bullock and without weight management should be able to focus on wrestling and cement himself as a clear starter - thus allowing Walters to complete a redshirt. I had put Trost as 197, however the UofM roster page has him at HWT at this point. 285 Early Favorite: L. Davison Contender(s): None Spot Starter(s): I. Jenkings, L. Trost B1G Prediction: L. Davison NCAA Prediction: Contender (1-4 range) I think Davison does it. Beats Kerk when it matters as well as Hendrickson to win a NC. So for those chasing the rabbit... 125 - 5th, 10 + 1 = 11 points 133 - 4th, 12.5 + 1 = 13.5 points 141 - 3rd, 13.5 + 0 = 13.5 points 149 - R16, 0.5 + 0 = 0.5 points 157 - 5th, 10 + 0 = 10 points 165 - 3rd, 13.5 + 1 = 14.5 points 174 - 3rd, 13.5 + 1 = 13.5 points 184 - 7th, 6.5 + 0 = 6.5 points 197 - R12, 2 + 0 = 2 points 285 - 1st, 20 + 1 = 21 points Total - 106 points I did use wrestlestat to 'project' the bonus point totals, so there you have that. This is optimistic, I think. Very small chance to improve, but I think we could expect an average of 2-3 positions lower per wrestler. Right now the average is 10.1 points per wrestler (sans bonus), which is somewhere just above 5th per wrestler. If you drop 2-3 you could get 7th-8th points per average on wrestlers... which would be as high as 65 but as low as 55... sans bonus, obviously - from an unbiased perspective. Biased perspective? They're taking home a trophy and breaking that century mark with a PSU team taking home 1st while coming pretty damn close to breaking the all-time scoring record.

So here is what the 'roster' breakdown currently is, per Wrestlestat 125 #7 - DeAugustino , M. - SR #91 - Tanefeu , C. - SO #114 - Wertanen , N. - RSFR #133 - Horwath , C. - FR 133 #9 - Cannon , C. - JR #136 - Tanefeu , W. - SO 141 #9 - Ragusin , D. - JR #47 - Jerore , N. - RSFR #186 - Lemley , S. - FR 149 #75 - Mayora , F. - JR #186 - Gilcher , D. - FR 157 #9 - Lewan , W. - SR #201 - Mantanona , B. - FR #201 - Gulacha , A. - FR #201 - Ramsey , Z. - FR #326 - Wesselman , A. - SO 165 #3 - Amine , C. - JR #118 - Mattin , Z. - SO #247 - Consuelos , J. - SO 174 #3 - Griffith , S. - SR #91 - Khawaja , C. - RSFR #92 - Knudten , J. - RSFR #154 - Owens , C. - FR 184 #27 - Rogers , R. - RSFR #37 - Walker , J. - JR #119 - McKenna , M. - JR 197 #89 - Yatooma , B. - JR #52 - Bullock , J. - JR #70 - Striggow , B. - SR #101 - Cummings , J. - RSFR #128 - Trost , L. - RSFR #130 - Walters , H. - FR 285 #5 - Davison , L. - SR #69 - Jenkins , I. - RSFR #118 - Nugent , K. - SO #125 - Khurshidov , D. - SO #225 - Jordan , A. - SO

Currently it looks like this will be the starters... any thoughts, questions, or curiosities to these (Wrestlestat's Starters w/ their ratings listed)? 125 - #7 DeAugustino, Michael 133 - #9 Cannon, Chris 141 - #9 Ragusin, Dylan 149 - #75 Mayora, Fidel 157 - #9 Lewan, Will 165 - #3 Amine, Cameron 174 - #3 Griffith, Shane 184 - #27 Rogers, Rylan 197 - #89 Yatooma, Brendin 285 - #5 Davison, Lucas I don't necessarily think everyone listed will be the starter by season's end (or beginning for that matter). Curious what folks expectations are, or might be? Mine will follow.

As of now: 125: McHenry appears to have the spot, although watching him, he doesn't appear to be 100% healthy, and injury defaulted to eighth place at Vegas this past week. 133: Ragusin appears solid. Semifinal match against McGee was much closer than the match during the pandemic a few years ago. 141: In spite of getting stuck in the quarters, Cole Mattin looking solid, and always comes to compete. 149: Lamer overall looking solid against top competition despite losses to Parco and Arrington. 157: Lewan good, hopefully injury not severe. 165: Amine back by January 174: Walker getting used to being on stage. 184: Finesilver looking good against most competition, still struggles against the best. 197: This might be a problem. Striggow and Bullock both out with knee injuries, and Yatooma had to withdraw from Vegas this past weekend. That would leave Cummings and Trost as the last options. Stay tuned. HWT: Parris is the man. They brought Jenkins to Vegas to be his workout partner; hopefully he's learning things fast.

He's recovering from elbow surgery, and is actually good right now, but they're holding him out until the beginning of the year.

Oh very well, spanky big dog. Using these and rounding to the nearest whole number all three have them with a total of 4.

Apparently he transferred to Northern Iowa? Or I accidentally pasted in the UNI table. How is this?

How is Parris a 5% chance to AA?

Probability of AA by weight along with the expected number of AAs

I was creeping Michigan's certifications almost on a daily and he was one of the last to certify. I took it as he was battling some form of injury that made it so he couldn't get his weight down enough. As an aside, Myles and Malik have San Marino citizenship through their mother's side I believe? If that is true, then Cam will have to go through his Lebabon roots on his father's side. Dom Abounader is one of the main reasons that the Amine's didn't go that route. I may be wrong on the mother bit.

He has not wrestled yet - is he hurt, laying low, hiding in San Marino or what?

Any of you can create a new thread. Life has been extremely hectic around these parts the last couple of weeks. You don't need to rely on me to create them if you wish to speak about something related to UofM. J/s Like Yatooma getting the nod over Bullock again? Pisses me off to no real end. Let Bullock wrestle the weight and get used to it. Unless it is a real battle between him and Finesilver for 184. In that case male a decision so the other can go 197 pronto.

125: Mastrogiovanni dec McHenry 3-0 133: Fix dec Ragusin 6-0 141: Cole Mattin dec Carter Young 6-3 149: Victor Voinovich dec Chance Lamer 9-3 157: Will Lewan dec Kaden Gfeller 9-6 165: Cam Amine dec Wyatt Sheets 9-9 174: Dustin Plott dec Joe Walker 12-9 184: Travis Wittlake dec Matt Finesilver 15-9 197: Luke Surber dec Jaden Bullock 18-9 285 Mason Parris fall Konner Doucet 18-15

Wrestlestat has this going to OSU. If you use their lineups from this last weekend it gets worse for Michigan. https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/dual/40/michigan/57/oklahoma-state

Fck yeah! https://mgoblue.com/news/2022/11/14/wrestling-wolverines-add-bout-at-ballpark-dual-against-oklahoma-state.aspx

Honestly I did not expect Mattin to dominate like that. Also Z.Mattin has the skill and motor to succeed at 165, he just needs more meat.

Just finished the first match. Mattin looked good. Why would McNeil choose down in the third? Did he want to practice getting ridden? FFS! Do they shoot the entire dual through the net?!?

197: Shaw dec. Bullock 3-2 HWT: Parris pin. Whitman (2:30) 125: Wagner dec. Medley 5-4 133: Ragusin TF Hernandez 20-5 Final dual score: Michigan 23 - North Carolina 12

Bullock match went how I thought at 197. That shows me he is the guy for us there.

Maylor has the strength of an averafe 149lber. He should not ve wrestling 174 in the B1G. Walker beats the version if Lautt that showed up.

So far: 141: C. Mattin dec. McNeil 9-3 149: Lamer dec. Nini 6-3 157: Lewan dec. Bailey 3-2 165: Mazzara dec. Z. Mattin 7-3 174: Lautt dec Taylor 4-1 184: Finesilver dec. Kane 4-0 Michigan up 12-6 over North Carolina.

Meet started at 141. Wins at 141 - 157. Zach Mattin dropped a decision at 165. Maylor starting up against Lautt.

I have UNC winning 125 amd 197 and UofM winning 141, 174, and 184. UNC could absolutely win all of those and is favored at 174 pretty heavily. If Bullock (or Finesilver - both are listed as 184/197 on their official roster) doesn't go at 197 UMC can win via bonus there.

Michigan / North Carolina on a Sunday afternoon sounds great. My first look at the Wolverines. Looking forward to it.