Hammerlock3

he has 249 post in this topic....

Yeah i certainly agree they are doing as well in the room as anyone, I guess my push back is against the bandwagon jumpers taking a dump on Smith from the heights of Taylor's inflated reputation. Also I should compliment the forum, I don't think his reputation is artificially inflated on here, just like I don't think there are any obnoxious PSU fans on here now that Tbar found the light.

I sort of agree with that....I think Taylor gets outsized credit for in the room coaching based on his ability to pull in top top kids (often via shady recruiting practices apparently), but thats kind of splitting hairs, he's gonna get compared to guys who all were great wrestlers and had a massive recruiting advantage based on that. I think Vega and Forrest would be very similar under john smith (though he wouldn't have gotten em), a kid like robideau benefited massively from taylor (he's in the haines starocci style mold that PSU and apparently Taylor can just churn out). Anyway I guess my main reaction is that I'm gonna give Smith a pass on Lockett being boring unless Taylor turns him around. Thats all just free flowing thoughts from my I don't mean it to contradict anything you said directly.

I think Lockett has been in that room sense he was a kid. That makes me more pessimistic, if he was gonna figure it out he's every opprtunity.

we were doing alright for a few pages

Well thanks for the info.

I guess the russian federation is in turmoil (I'm a genius), Saduleav running around doing exhibitions is not very Russian feeling.

This will change, its a young team obviously, but its a decent question how much. Lockett is gonna be boring forever.

remember ferrari makes the cut for "great"....though stealing is pretty friggin low....guess we'd have to decide who SA allegations are more credible...

I'm not saying he is, but neither are you.

are you begging me to call you a bitter jealous horrible person now?

For those wondering, Starocci scored bonus in 28% of his NCAA matches. However that includes 0/5 in 2024 which I'd give him some slack for, but it doesn't take much slack if you're claim is he did in less than 25%.....

i think i addressed it to Leduke just now.

Well if Caveira is just lying then yes the steelman excercise won't help, particularly if Brucey is gonna insist on reading the most sinister possible intent into everyone else's posts. My hope was that Brucey would admit its alright that hierarchies exist caveira would obviously say Starocci is obviously a great wrestler....not derailing the topic.

If you guys tried to do a good faith summary of the other's opinion on the subject, I doubt you would still think there was a disagreement.

its annoying how little pleasure we take in bad calls against people we were routing against in comparison to anguish we experience when the roles are reversed. Guess there is a spiritual/philosophical message in there. @Le duke

Whats the minimum number of PSU finalists? The way Lilldahl wrestling last NCAAs he was ready to get beat, but i didn't think that all year....MM is gonna go down for me as a top 3 NCAA wrestler ever with me...Barr doesn't seem touchable....3? Minimum? 184 is deep enough to knock off welsh.

are you sure his action figure status doesn't translate to unfair expectations. I've only seen like 4 Lesnar matches to be honest. Are we sure he did nothing by HWY standards?

thats a good one. He's might be the best wrestler that I can't remember being particularly good at anything...not that he wasn't, before someone gets offended.

who used it like an insult? Will you feel better if I say "least great great wrestler"? Will that end the moralistic posturing?

Doesn't get much weirder. Everything from the move he used to the way Taylor went dead cricket once he hit his back reads like it should have been the opposite.

you're being hyperbolically sensitive.

is the implication that you can't ranked the 4 timers?

man if only PSU could get a call.....