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If carter starocci wrestled for Iowa would be be more or less popular?

Sort of, equally accurate to say that a lot of people live pissed off at Iowa. Anyway the method of pissing of Aaron Brooks is different than pissing off Evan Bates.

sort of, but whats your point? If you mean it doesn't affect how they are gonna wrestle you're wrong about that.

if you are gonna attack the fan base, try to be funny.

The mood in Iowa should be "we can't beat them, but we can piss them off." Its kind of like 2 years ago when ISU couldnt beat Iowa in the dual but they won the public relations side because there was almost a bench clearing brawl....gotta use the narrative, which is something like "PSU is about to get Iowas program cancelled", to their advantage somehow.

you kinda split the line between potential joke/potential truth too well with this...

he ain't gonna get more help from the refs than he did against sidakov last time.

uh oh

This thing has been in production for years right?

they wouldn't because they aren't complete dorks.

or is up 4-1 with 90 seconds left and gives up 2 stalls and a TD for the loss....just trying to work out my definition...

i don't think that counts as a carvering.....meyer was a returning AA, and Hall was a pretty boring wrestler his whole college career.

IMHO for him to get carvered he's have to get majored or something. Him losing a one TD match doesn't qualify.

i don't want to be difficult, the conclusion of this paragraph contradicts the introduction. If you want to say its 50 different things fine, i wouldn't because it explains away the meaning of the expression, but you can't say its any number of things and then its a bunch of things which are perfectly balanced.

when did a boring out of shape wrestler carver an exciting in shape one? I'm not saying there is nothing to it but style is a bigger part of is being let on.

Yeah but style was relevant in your example. To be honest I know adrenaline dumps are real, but I get the impression that the point of your example is to imply that losses under those circumstances aren't valid in some aspect. Feel free to correct me.

yeah but it was that or hit him for stalling instantly.

you're take doesn't hold cause Mark Hall was way less a shootout type guy than Meyer.

In that match or Kolat/Ironside, they basically forced super high paced matches because they could win a shoot out but not a chess match, in Ironsides case it was more impressive because Kolat was such a tough handifghter that ironside had to shoot from the outside to keep his offence intact. The scary thing about PSU is that most of their guys you would favor in a shoot out or chess match. Who in this dual is gonna beat PSU on pace? maybe 133, 141, 184....not 125, 149, 157, 174, 197, or 285. Caliendo wrestles really hard so I won't put him as a 'no', but I'm pretty sure we're all sorta spooked by messenbrink.

Pyles also needs to stop couching everything he says with "I think". We assume that if you are saying something you think it, it basically translates to "I'll say this, but will take it back if it will make anyone mad at me."

maybe NC state? they're pretty tactical.

in terms of style i think oklahoma state is the best fit....

he can't win a shoot out though...wrestling to win and wrestling to not get majored are gonna look real simialr.

I isn't the field for 2nd so open you can't really have a dark horse? Wouldn't the only dark horse pick be PSU?

not popular but sitting on a rainbow by mountain.