TylerDurden

It's not the 3-point takedown that is the problem. No matter what rules you have in place, coaches and wrestlers at this level always will find what they consider to be the most advantageous strategy to win a match. IMO, the biggest problem is the application of the stalling rule. It absolutely was not applied the same in the finals as it was in the regular season. Officiating is a challenging job for a variety of reasons and I understand they they may want to "let the wrestlers decide the match," but deciding not to call the rules the same way in the finals matches is at least as influential as they think calling the stall is.

David Taylor will have the portal doors wide open this offseason. Oklahoma State didn't hire him to finish behind Iowa at the NCAA tournament.

I don't think anything has been proven false. Not pursuing charges doesn't mean it's not true. But that wasn't my point anyway. The allegations happened and that influences what people think.

It's not low, it's true. The allegations influence perception, whether it happened or not I'm not even sure what you're arguing here.

For sure. He beat two champs.

People always tell on themselves.

I think it was his cardio.

The annual stalling debate.

He should have been called more than twice. That wasn't even a challenging match to call. He did not try to wrestle for two periods.

What match did you watch? Taylor caught an ankle right at the end of the 1st. That's the only time he engaged the entire match. Blaze kept coming forward and deserved for the officiating to be consistent with the regular season. The official allowed Taylor to run away.

That doesn't mean he didn't stall for the remainder of the match.

We watched stalling called one way all year long and then in the finals, the whistle is swallowed. This is terrible to watch, unless you're watching Jesse Mendez. He's a legend.

They need to change these challenge rules. Taylor just got a timeout.

The bracket showed me the way.

Maybe he's trying to set the record for the lowest combined point total for a national champ? Jason Tsirtsis has to be in the mix, though I'm guessing someone has scored fewer. He won the title in 2014 with a combined 15 points over five matches: Bryce Busler (Bloomsberg) 149 W Dec 4-1 James English (PSU) 149 W Dec 4-3 Kendric Maple (Oklahoma) 149 W Dec SV1 2-1 Drake Houdashelt (Missouri) 149 W Dec SV1 2-1 Joshua Kindig (Oklahoma State) 149 W Dec SV1 3-1 With the three-point takedown, adjusted stalling and neutral danger rules, something like Tsirtsis' run would be hard to replicate.

No message - I think I found the discrepancy with Parco defaulting out.

Direct link: https://www.trackwrestling.com/tw/predefinedtournaments/VerifyPassword.jsp?tournamentId=855048132

Speak for yourself

Wolak knocks Kharchla to the consis

I was thinking it sounded like too many points as well. Good catch.

If they simply perform to seed, they'll have four champs. If that happens, they only need two guys to overperform their seed by one spot to have six champs. Non-No. 1 seeds: Davis (8), Bartlett (2), Van Ness (3), Haines (2), Barr (4), Kerkvliet (3) Looking at the brackets, there is a non-zero (but still very much unlikely) chance that they could get all 10 guys into the finals. I personally don't think that will happen, but I wouldn't think you're completely insane if you said it would happen. It really is an insanely high standard they've set.

You mean after the first period, right? Snyder is too small for Gable.

Another thing to consider: Dake, Yianni, et al, didn't have to wrestle a B1G schedule. We can't know how that might have impacted results, health or anything else, but I don't think that's a small thing. It could have impacted several things.

This is one of those topics where I feel like I have an immediate opinion, start writing it out...then realize I need to research about 10 guys

Wt Wrestler Seed 125 Cooper Flynn 19 133 Angelo Rini 21 141 Josh Sanders 20 149 Gavin Drexler 22 157 Jacori Teemer 18 165 Tyler Lillard 27 174 Dan Braunagel 20 184 Ryder Rogotzke 26 197 Andy Smith 19 HWT Jacob Bullock 21 Apparently I like the brackets (relatively) for IU guys.