TylerDurden

The answer is no one. Kerk has wrestled him about as tough as anyone since his freshman season, but he's the only one I see holding it to a regular decision and I'm not super confident in that prediction. Hendrickson would get majored, at least.

Yes. Because we all know Amine only wrestles 2-1 matches.

To be fair, the attention is mostly for the work they've done as dual team and UNI is a damn good dual team. I think UNI gets more than one AA, but I think the o/u is probably somewhere around 2.5.

I'm not trying to troll here, but just because it may have the same or a similar title doesn't necessarily mean it's a lateral move.

125 Flynn dec. Cruz 3-0 Minnesota 133 Ayala dec. Wells 3-3 141 VomBaur dec. Schriever 6-3 Minnesota 149 Parco major Roberts 7-6 Iowa 157 Teemer dec. Askey 10-6 Iowa 165 Caliendo dec. Sparks 13-6 Iowa 174 Kennedy dec. Whiting 16-6 Iowa 184 McEnelly dec. Arnold 16-9 Iowa 197 Buchanan major Salazar 20-9 Iowa HWT Steveson TF Kueter 20-14 Iowa I think Iowa wins in a competitive, but not nail-biting dual. Minnesota is a lock at HWT (duh) and a near lock at 141. I could be convinced that Iowa can win 125 and I won't be surprised if Arnold wins, but I'm not expecting it.

This year it's probably HEW, if I had to guess. I wasn't sure he'd have any sort of college career. My lasting image of him from HS was Brayton Lee breaking him in the HS state tournament (17-2 TF) when Lee was a senior and Washington was a Junior. Washington also lost the next year in the state final to a guy who wrestled at Ohio (Slivka). Basically, that one match against Lee made me pause and wonder if he had the sort of mentality it took to succeed in the B1G - even understanding the level that Lee was on at that time. But...then he went from never winning an Indiana HS title to beating Starocci two years later. You don't do with without talent. All-in-all, I think his career has been pretty successful, even if it appears he had the potential for more. I'll fully admit that I was wrong about him in college. That's a credit to him and Escobedo.

Ohio State continues to be a team that's hard to get a good read one. They didn't put all of their guys out there, but I don't know how the Buckeyes can feel anything but uneasy about its upcoming date with Penn State after the dual with IU. Angel Escobedo doesn't have all the top talent, but his guys scrap...except DJ Washington. He does something else. Penn State can win 9/10 if it sends everyone out. 197 No. 21 Gabe Sollars (IND) def. No. 18 Seth Shumate (OSU) | D, 10-6 0 3 HWT No. 9 Nick Feldman (OSU) def. No. 18 Jacob Bullock (IND) | D, 4-2 3 3 125 No. 20 Jacob Moran (IND) def. No. 18 Brendan McCrone (OSU) | D, 3-2 3 6 133 Angelo Rini (IND) def. No. 10 Nic Bouzakis (OSU) | D, 6-3 3 9 141 No. 1 Jesse Mendez (OSU) def. Lucas Peters (IND) | TF, 19-3 8 9 149 No. 8 Dylan D'Emilio (OSU) def. Joey Buttler (IND) | D, 5-3 11 9 157 Brandon Cannon (OSU) def. Ryan Garvick (IND) | TF, 18-3 16 9 165 No. 19 Tyler Lillard (IND) def. Brock Herman (OSU) | MD, 15-2 16 13 174 No. 5 Carson Kharchla (OSU) def. Roman Rogotzke (IND) | TF, 19-4 21 13 184 No. 19 Ryder Rogotzke (OSU) def. DJ Washington (IND) | F, 0:59 27 13

No doubt his losses have been "good losses." But I guess my bigger point is that there aren't really college folkstyle wins anyone can point to that suggest he's head-and-shoulders better than someone on Allred's level. What people thought were going to be his marquee wins last year - Feldkamp and Wittlake - turned out to be wins over a guy who was a little better than .500 and a guy who was clearly battling previous injuries. To me, his results suggest that he's a guy who's in the mix for an AA spot but I also wouldn't be surprised if he went 2-2 at the NCAAs. Just seems to me that the perception surrounding him is a bit inflated vis-a-vis his actual results.

I'm kind of confused about why people talk about Arnold like this. Why would anyone think Allred wouldn't beat him? Allred is a former B1G champion. Arnold might not even be the best 184 on his own team, with quotes that are more memorable than his results to this point. We have people talking about him like he's been wrecking ranked wrestlers right and left, when the reality is he's blocking and holding position against anyone with a pulse. I'm not trying to crap on the guy, he's a good wrestler, but he hasn't shown himself to be in a tier that warrants anyone saying something like no one expected Silas Allred to beat him.

I personally find Ohio State one of the more difficult teams to predict in a B1G dual. Outside of Mendez and Kharchla, it's hard to gauge which version of a wrestler you're going to see. I might be selling D'Emilio a bit short with that statement, but I see everyone else as being 50/50 to lose focus for a moment and find themselves having to rally from a two-takedown+ deficit.

Then you know that there's no point to this thread.

I think he thought Ferrari had a better chance to not get bulldozed. I don't know if Iowa thought Ferrari could win. Ferrari has length that's hard to break through and harder to finish on once you get it. I do not think Starocci showed him everything he can do. It looks to me like he was staying simple and doing just enough to win...a rope-a-dope for a potential second or third matchup, if you will. I'm not familiar with his weigh-ins, but can Arnold drop to 174? That would probably make Iowa better because I think Ferrari is the better choice at 184 and I'm assuming Arnold > Kennedy, though I could be convinced otherwise.

You may have see more lopsided 1 v 2 matches - I'll take your word for it - but Mesenbrink was in catch and release mode in that NCAA match after the first period and has owned the matchup. Regardless, the point is that Caliendo hasn't shown any reason in their previous encounters for that match to be listed as a poll option for the one people are most interested in during the PSU/Iowa dual over the others WKN selected - which was the Pa in Taiwan's point. The three results: 1. 12-6 (Dual at Iowa) 2. 23-7 TF (B1G) 3. 17-9 MD (NCAA Semi)

Did you see the Mesenbrink v Caliendo matches last season? It's about as mismatched 1 v2 bout as you can get.

Cael's real genius is his roster management. He loses two national champs and one runner-up and I'm over here wondering if next season's team will be better than this one.

I agree with this line of thinking. While I have no doubt that many PSU and other wrestlers truly believe in God, studying religion/religious ideas/spirituality is also a tool that can help with self discipline and help people achieve a certain balance in their lives that might be beneficial to challenging endeavors. It's not the only way and it's not for everyone, but these ideologies come with ready-made material that make it easier to follow. Ever meet someone who is really into Yoga? A Buddhist? CrossFit enthusiasts (I kid, I kid, kinda).

Set that line right now for sig bets.

Where is NIL deal?

It absolutely is not. I can show you images of my neighbors' homes that were downwind, yet untouched as well as examples in other areas nearby, they were simply fortunate to be in a better topographic position and/or blessed by a sudden change in the wind pattern. I also can show you homes that were built with the latest fire-resistant materials with miles of buffer that ended up just like mine. But I have only spent the past three years learning about massive fires after living through it, seeing the aftermath and literally observing how the heat and wind patterns dictated what burnt and what didn't. I only saw the actual burn scars though, so clearly you know better because you saw a picture online.

I'm saying this with all due respect - you don't really know what you're talking about. The points you're trying to make are simply what armchair QBs do after the fact in attempt to assign blame. Nothing you mentioned would have stopped or slowed what is happening in California or what has happened in Colorado or elsewhere. During the Marshall Fire: 1. There were water reserves. Water reserves also don't matter is the distribution systems are damaged by the fire and the demand is wide spread and simultaneous. 2. The Open Space was well maintained. 3. Trust me, I know they're difficult to stop. You cannot prepare for something of that magnitude. I'm thankful that people's homes were spared, but it's far more likely they were spared because of the topography surrounding their homes. I'm now going to walk away from this thread because I don't want to type something out of anger that I'll regret later.

My house burned down in the Marshall Fire, near Boulder, in late December 2021. We lost everything but what we could fit in a duffle bag. EVERY-F*CKING-THING, including my high school headgear. I appreciate the things Le duke is saying here, because as much as people are pointing fingers, the reality is that there isn't any amount of water that will stop a fire when you combine high winds and drought with the sudden demand for all of the resources. The systems aren't designed to handle that sort of demand - and no one would support paying for a system that would. We had sustained winds for 10-11 hours, gusting consistently from 60-100 MPH and peaking at around 115 MPH. We hadn't had rain since August of that year. You know what stopped that fire? The approximately 8" of snow that dumped on us the next night. So yeah, it's a bit personal, but any of you acting like Newsom, Trump, Biden, or George Washington could have done anything to stop this are simply playing partisan politics with people's lives. I know it can seem fashionable to rail against everything the government does and you think your internet comments are cute, but I can assure you that you would change your tune about an agency like FEMA if your house and all your possessions were turned to ashes.

I'm taking Kerk by pinfall.

HOT TAKE: Penn State at home = a smackdown 125 Lilledahl dec Cruz, 3-0 PSU 133 Ayala dec Davis, 3-3 141 Bartlett dec Block, 6-3 PSU 149 Van Ness dec Parco, 9-3 PSU 157 Kasak dec Teemer, 12-3 PSU 165 Mesenbrink tech Caliendo, 17-3 PSU 174 Haines major Kennedy, 21-3 PSU 184 Starocci major Arnold, 25-3 PSU 197 Buchanan major Barr, 25-7 PSU HWT Kerkvliet pin Kueter, 31-7 PSU

The practice attire. They all aren't kitted up in UNI training gear like you see at Oklahoma State (and others) as seen in this Flo video: UNI doesn't have many creature comforts.

Flo posted this on YouTube: UNI seems to have a bunch of guys who have bought in. Easy group to cheer for. Grinding it out in a facility worse than many HS, no team gear...just wrestling. UNI Fight!