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You think TnT are pulling shenanigans?

Could be. Do have to wonder though if Ferrari is dinged up or something. I'd give him a better chance of slowing down Plott.

Exactly ... there is no "modern era." Now you are getting it.

That is shocking. Did he stall himself to death last match?

We all know this and they didn't, doesn't mean it was the major chance. We could go with point scoring instead.

If Wkn doesn't have a chart on this he should.

... but they've both been warned for stalling no?

It simply a made up distinction by a small group. After 69 most still only wrestled So - Sr years. So many others era changes after.

... that too!

Merrill gave Buchanan his closest match of the year (2-0). Surber gets to train with Merrill every day. Surber is hard to prep for, look what happened when Voelker tried to throw him on his head. I wouldn't pick him but its OSU v IA - stuff happens.

Respect your elders!

Good point cause I forgot to mention 1) the grade transfer era, 2) the Covid illegibility era, 3) the portal era, 4) NIL era, 24/25 and 5) the whats next era.

Its my understanding there's still more room in the back. At the very least wave as you go by.

Nothing wrong with giving them a little shade.

I remember 1969. Most folks had a single rotary dial phone in their house and the party line system was still in use. Some establishments still had outhouses, maybe that hasn't changed much cause now we have @PortaJohns. Sure the 69 Pontiac GTO was one of the coolest cars ever but it ain't worth $300k today because its modern. Pat Smith brought in a newer "modern" era showing you could win 4x even as a true freshman. However, the 4x thing didn't really take off until Cael showed the way. It was rare even then for true freshman to start, most just didn't have the defensive skills out of high school and needed a year in the room. The next new modern came after high school and club coaching improved so much that these kids had the defense and technique right out of high school or before. I'd say there was another new modern when Cael started coaching. No one is saying 1969 is the "modern era." We simply have one long history of wrestling with a lot of changes throughout.

Pretty sure it was stalling. Back in that day Iowa picked their ref, always had a stall caller for OSU and Iowa never got called. The Guerrero calls were legit, he gassed out.

Some big names: Guerrero almost stalled out (won NCAA that year), crowd goes crazy. Ironside pins Kelly, everybody is on their feet unbearable noise level. Schmidt come back and pins McGinnis in first, you could hear a pin drop save for that one guy wearing orange. The coined rolled forever at HWT and you always knew the heavy who picked bottom would win in SD. PS: Pop prob didn't think it was BDE but it was.

All I know is I've been to ~4 OSU duals in CHA and they always won. First one was the best dual meet ever. I was sitting in the midst of black wearing orange, it went back & forth all night and came down to coin flip at hwt. Last one sitting on row 2, came down to a tie. We knew the criteria before hwt and were high tailing it up the 40 rows to get to the airport whilst 14k+ bums in black were trying to figure out what was going on. I'm setting the O/U for stall calls on the MIB at 0.5 and I'll take the under.

Mars or Pluto?

Did Danny ever wear mismatched shoes? I rest my case.

Hamiti has been taken down once or twice.

What is this "modern era" you speak of? Am assuming since advent of self driving cars.