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Good question. I didn't think to check, but I guess guys don't get eighth years as often as I thought they did.

Liam Cronin at 125. Had a big weekend beating Patrick McKee and Michael DeAugustino.

You are not wrong. Among three timers in the freshman ineligible eras (100%ers), only Wayne Martin did the deed at three different weights. It was both very impressive and a bit of a technicality. In 1934 he won at 135, the third of eight weights. In 1935 he won at 145, the fourth of eight weights. In 1936 he won at 134, the second of seven weights. 1936 was an Olympic year and they would sometimes harmonize the weights and tournament structure with the Olympic weights and structure back then. A lot of three timers from that era won at two weights. No three timer in the freshman eligible eras have won at more than two weights.

Sidd Finch?

Glenbard North HS in Carol Stream, IL. Home of Tony Ramos, Austin Gomez, Abe Assad, and Billy Corrigan. Coach Hahn always wore cowboy boots, dominated the conference, and was not every competotor's favorite. He also owns a barn across the street with a gold dot on the roof. Only GN wrestlers are allowed to know its meaning. https://illinoismatmen.com/forum/forum/statewide/ihsa-3a/43276-gbn-hatred/page4 https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1992-08-09-9203110535-story.html

I lived a few hundred yards from that damned gold dot for about 30 years. And I was always curious about the cowboy boots and handlebar mustache in surburban Chicago. Never made sense to me.

That is likely his motive for the post. But his premise is his first sentence.

The OP's premise was that Iowa might need this to win the dual, not that either wrestler was on a vision quest.

Ahh. That context. The summary specifically says that the defensive wrestler has a greater responsibility to initiate action "since the offensive wrestler has already demonstrated action to put their opponent in that position".

After all the work you did for me, it is I who owes you the drink.

Me? I don't think PSU makes the podium. Discuss.

I would need a list of active coaches (79, I think) along with the year they started and the number of AAs. Of course, many will have zero AAs, but I think that could be tough. There may be a way to work backward though. I have all results for 2010-2022 in a db. From that I can do it by school (rather than coach) for the period. Then maybe use that as a filter. Hmmm, let me think on it a bit more. And the numbers @fishbane provided were total AAs rather than unique count of wrestlers who AAed. Again it is a data issue.

Their names are Rock Harrison and Shawn Kenney. Harrison wrestled for Virginia. Kenney does a lot of UWW broadcasts.

Fingers crossed

Huh? Getting a takedown is one of three ways you wind up in the position. I also covered the other common way. The third is rare, but still deterministic. I added the context because it absolutely exists and ignoring it is wrong.

Man I had a lot of errors in the graph. You even missed on I just caught. I fixed them all and then pasted in the wrong graph. Doh. Here is the corrected graph. And the corrected table:

I beg to differ. I get the prize for winning every internet argument. Just ask me.

Where is @FearTheTurtle? Has to be a Terps fan, right?

One more thought. Feel free to change your minds as many times as you like in the next two weeks. Go ahead and share your predictions now, but don't feel locked in since there will be many more data points to consider between now and then. With an exception for The Original Six (screw the NHL). You get two bites of the apple. Your TheMat prediction and whatever your final thoughts are here.

absolutely. I only posted these as a reminder of what you said previously. All predictions are subject until you tell me they are final.

It is deterministic. Getting the takedown earns you the right to keep the defensive wrestler down and places a burden on the defensive wrestler to escape. I cannot help the way the rule is written. But that is the way it is written. It is symmetrical because each wrestler has the same choice in alternating periods.

I know, I know. Getting an early start here. When it was announced the TheMat forum was shutting down there was already a topic for predictions of this dual. Six fearless posters made weight by weight predictions and I decided to hang on to them in the hopes that a new forum would form. Well, here we are. Below are the predictions made by The Six. At least five of you have migrated to the new board: @flyingcement, @Barracuda141, @nhs67, @VakAttack, @Le duke. (Only MSU158 is missing in action, though he appears to be active on HR. Perhaps Vak can reach out to him and encourage his return). I wanted to do the same thing as last year and keep track of predictions for this dual. But a lot of water has gone under the bridge since late September / early October. So I also wanted to give The Super Six a chance to revise their predictions, or double down. This is what 2022 you thought. What says 2023 you? The Super Six Seers: Two for Iowa, two for PSU and two ties. I love symmetry.

Any idea what the THIS in THIS WAS TABLED refers to?

Just noticed this. Sorry for the late response. My reply is that the offensive wrestler has already scored by taking the defensive wrestler down (except for the start of period 2 and 3, but that is symmetrical). Now it is incumbent on the defensive wrestler to prevent the offensive wrestler from keeping him down. The offensive wrestler initiated the action that got us to this point. Now the defensive wrestler must respond. In short, the defensive wrestler has a greater responsibility because the offensive wrestler earned the right by taking the defensive wrestler down.