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Not really sure what the answer is, but maybe he was in the portal and we just didn't know it? But as for the portal they only have a single window for wrestling now, from mid-March to early May.

always and everywhere.

Trump is using it to get his crowd size up. Because that is the issue of our day. How big was his crowd? The people need to know. I only care about crowd size. I need to know who has the biggest crowd so I know how to vote.

Something carastrophic.

Time for an @Iwrite history lesson.

I added a meal between breakfast and brunch. Maybe that could help?

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JP Morgan now estimating 3/4ths of the global carry trade has been unwound: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-08-08/jpmorgan-says-three-quarters-of-global-carry-trades-now-unwound?cmpid=BBD080824_MONEYSTUFF&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_term=240808&utm_campaign=moneystuff

Not France.

Yeah, not a fan of the @BobDole button. And hate the lack of a like. But then we have buttons named after people who do not even post here anymore (perhaps are banned?)? It really needs to be cleaned up.

Welcome aboard. Great first post. As for the US wrestlers in my view: Spencer Lee - wrestled great, just got out scrambled by the smallest of margins. If they wrestled 10 times, I like his chances to win 5 or 6 times. Zain Retherford - it is a shame he had a concussion in training, and it certainly showed in that first match. I think it also explains the pre-wrap of the head and the cautious approach. Kyle Dake - over confidence in his ability to score off the other guy's offense cost him dearly. That he was higher in his stance dis not help either. The sprint to bronze made me wish he had wrestled like that in his semi. Aaron Brooks - another close call. I think it all goes back to the bow and arrow. Defending that for so long in such a brutal position took a lot out of him. He then made a very fatigued decision at the end to dive in and try to hold on. No bow, no bad decision. Kyle Snyder - looked the most cautious to me. I am wondering if a lifetime at, or near the top, is catching up with him. Mason Parris - made a very bad decision when he gave up the 4. I think he thought he was giving up a step out point and relaxed. Then the deperation set in and he panciked a bit. It snowballed from there. Some rookie mistakes.

It was May 2023 WTT.

That is news to me, especially when given the choice between 70 and 65 at WTT he chose 65.

That looks like a decent list. But if we go with OTT results it should be Nick Lee, then either Andrew Alirez, or Jesse Mendez in front of Yianni.

A+

Coaching challenges is an excellent point. Any transition would be painful. It would need to be decided the gain outweighed the pain. As for youth wrestlers, I think they would enjoy it. Is there anything worse than spending your first X number of practices trying to figure out how to get off bottom? I thunk the fans you lose are in the 50-80+ range who grew up with folk.

Aaron Brooks wishes there were only two moves.

Looks like I have potential after all.

I was arguing the improvement internationally angle. I also argued attention and attendance would not be harmed by the switch in styles because attention and attendance are driven by tribalism much more than style. It was suggested that attendance and attention differences between OTT and the NCAA tournament came down to style. I argued it was about the lack of tribalism, not the difference in style.

The comparison is not swimming vs wrestling. The comparison is non-Olympic swimming versus Olympic swimming where the inly difference is tribe.

I was thinking about that too, but it isn't quite the right way to isolate the effect of tribe because it compares across two different definitions of tribe, college vs country, instead of comparing otherwise like events, one with tribe and one without. A better, but imperfect way due to the school aligned RTC programs, is to look at freestyle without tribe (BTS, Fargo (aka pre-tribe?), US Open, OTT, and the like) versus freestyle with tribe (Olympics). And there the contrast is stark.

Prove? No. But I do think Olympic swimming is a good natural experiment. No one, besides me, cares about swimming between the Olympics (huge mistake everyone), but when it is about country medal counts, and in a sport where the US racks up medals year after year, it is center stage to the point that a wrestling message board obssesses over how unfair it is that Michael Phelps is considered the GOAT.

And yet we all watch the Olympics in sports we do not care about. Because tribe.

I am curious about Askren's take. He had massive success at folk and some, but less, success at free. Also he tends to be thoughtful and inaightful on these subjects.

I am not convinced that has anything to do wirh the style, but with the tribalism. PSU fans tune in to see PSU. Hawkeye fans tune in to see Hawkeyes. And so on. Swap free for folk and you still have tribes. If you still have tribes, you still have fans.