PortaJohn

It's official.   Hendrickson to Okie State.  Just has that vibe Alirez is next

1 minute ago, ionel said:

Someone already got him and everyone knows about him.  I went with one no one else (even knownothing) would ever think of. 

JB informed me.  Scrolled up and saw the chap from Wisconsin beat you to it.  But that's still a L' for you.  You're supposed to be the Uetake guy 

1 hour ago, ionel said:

Melvin Clodfelter

I'm extremely shocked you didn't say Yojiro Uetake

6 minutes ago, lu_alum said:

Caught a small error on my previous post.  Greg Ruth won his 2nd title at 160 lbs, after winning the prior year at 167 lbs.

Bosak lost his jr year I think to one of the Nelson twins and senior year to Jake Kemerer.  Both were studs

1 hour ago, Hammerlock3 said:

ok who

Ed Ruth

23 hours ago, ncrockclimb said:

I would really appreciate if anyone could point me in the direction of someone at Oklahoma or a Sooner superfan that might have some pics from that era.  I know that this is a long-shot, but I am hopeful that someone here might be able to help.

I'd start here

National Wrestling Hall of Fame

405 West Hall of Fame Avenue
Stillwater, OK 74075
Phone: (405) 377-5243
Email: info@nwhof.org

1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

But at this point he’s built up such a following that I’d bet he likely gets “leaked” info that guys want to get out, but just don’t want to be the ones releasing it

I find this interesting because Brooks made a statement about being surprised it took this long to leak.  Curious who the mole was inside the PSU network.  

3 hours ago, flyingcement said:

I lost a bet with @poorwrestler and am serving a 31 day sentence

@poorwrestler  fly is kinda a Nelson Mandela, MLk, Gandhi figure on these boards.  Some say even a Mother Teresa. Is it possible to commute Fly's sentence.  For the sake of all our sanity?

22 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

Similarly I would love to know this information but have never found a reliable source

When do you get to change your pic?  It's throwing me off

8 minutes ago, TBar1977 said:

I'm still here in spirit! just realized the time i spent posting was better used appreciating Hammerlock's posts!

You are certainly the nail to locks hammer

11 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

They still happen over on the Iowa boards, don't they?

MSU is on HR/GIA.  Arguing with everyone and anything he can find.  No idea where TBAR went.  Some say he's in Zihuatnejo. It's in Mexico. A little place on the Pacific Ocean.  They say it has no memory. That's where he went to live the rest of his life. A warm place with no memory.

I miss the TBAR (PSU fan) vs MSU (now Iowa fan?) battles

29 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Do you actually believe that he is being 100% truthful about everything?  Let's start with the prescription and take it all the way to the softball interview.  Has he left anything out or made anything up?

I'm assuming wkn would answer like myself and say, "we do not have all the info and facts so we do not know".  That's called a measured balanced approach to this situation.  But you, you know. He's a liar

14 minutes ago, BigRedFan said:

I think this covers the case where a substance was taken inadvertently (say, a contaminated supplement).  Disclosing that you are taking a banned substance doesn't make up for the fact that the athlete is responsible for understanding what is on the prohibited list and *not* using that substance or proactively seeking a TUE.

When you read "establishing intent' they use specific literature that allows as much wiggle room as possible.  "Significant Flexibility", "athlete's declaration is considered powerful evidence".  

The problem with this AB scenario is the little info we have.  He stated he declared it, did not provide a prescription, had lawyers file it and was cleared the Thursday prior to competition and allowed to wrestle.  Everything else at this point is speculative.  

9 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

“Less severe sanctions.”  He hasn’t received any sanction yet has he?

No.  I'm assuming he's fine and when he disclosed the vyvanse on the DCF form the DCO officer asked him for the prescription and he didn't have it.  Hence, his statement in the interview.  But im just speculating & @Interviewed_at_Weehawken is certain he's lying

11 minutes ago, BigRedFan said:

You don't bring your prescription to a drug test.  That just isn't how it works.  Stop talking about his prescription as if it matters in this case:  it doesn't.  If you fail a drug test for a banned substance for which you don't have an existing TUE, you are deemed to have an AAF.  Maybe that's due to not "filing" the correct paperwork, but that doesn't justify your usage.  There are processes in place to deal with this.  Whether he has a  basis for an appeal is not known to us at this point.

 

Reading more into USADA he seems safe.  Brining the prescription doesn't matter but having one and him disclosing it shows transparency.  

Establishing Intent

Inadvertent rule violations are relatively rare, but they are possible, and when they do occur they are typically the result of medications or supplements that have been insufficiently researched before using them and which contain a prohibited substance. Significant flexibility has been built into the system to try to ensure that inadvertent rule violations are addressed with less severe sanctions. An athlete can usually qualify for a reduced sanction if they are able to determine the source of his or her positive test and establish a lack of intent to cheat. This is where a properly completed disclosure of medications and supplements used by the athlete can become so important.

The starting point for obtaining that flexibility in the event of a positive drug test is often whether the athlete has made a full and complete declaration of substances used on their doping control form.  Frequently, where the athlete has declared a supplement or medication which later turns out to be the source of the positive test, the athlete’s declaration is considered powerful evidence of the athlete’s intent to comply with the rules and leads to a finding that the athlete has not intended to cheat.

On the other hand, when an athlete fails to disclose a substance on their doping control form and tests positive, the failure to disclose can cast doubt on the athlete’s efforts to demonstrate that they were seeking to comply with the rules and this many result in a longer period of ineligibility.

Therefore, it is always in an athletes’ best interest to declare all of his or her supplements and medications – both prescription and non-prescription – during every sample collection process.

Here are just a few more of the reasons why athletes should declare every product, every time

1 hour ago, BigRedFan said:

His version of events demonstrates that he doesn't know how this all works, or he's not telling the truth.  You don't provide a prescription at a drug test:  you either already have a TUE (based in part on a previously provided prescription (say that three times fast!)) on file, or you don't.  I don't even know if one tells the personnel administering the drug test anything about what substances you are taking:  again, either you have a TUE for something on the banned list or you aren't taking anything on the banned list.

This is straight from the USADA website: The DCO and athlete will complete sample collection forms together, either hard-copy or digitally, to document the circumstances of the sample collection process. Additionally, In accordance with the instructions on the doping control form (DCF), the athlete should declare any substance or medication they may have taken on a Declaration of Use Form. They should also provide details of any Therapeutic Use Exemptions (TUEs) they may have on file.

3 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

The part where his lips move and he doesn't tell the truth?

At this point that's purely speculation on the grounds of your pure PSU hatred 

27 minutes ago, ionel said:

"Filling error?"  Sounds a lot worse than the Fix situation.  Should Daton have really taken the blame just because Derek's yellow post-it note that said "WT members: don't drink from the water bottles" fell off the garage fridge?  Everyone knows about the wind in Oklahoma.  C'mon Man! 

Hey Now!  Don't contort my words like an Oklahoma twister. 

4 minutes ago, BigRedFan said:

His version of events demonstrates that he doesn't know how this all works, or he's not telling the truth

After listening to many of his post match and now formal interviews/sermons I hypothesize critical reasoning isn't part of his brain structure so I'm predicting it's answer a)  he doesn't know how this all works

On 5/8/2024 at 4:50 PM, Dogbone said:

NFL teams likely just want to kick the tires for a tryout or something.  Give him a small deal to come to a mini camp and then cut him.  At 265 he probably a D End?  Has he ever played football?

MMA seems very logical but if I were him I would maximize the NIL value and wrestle one more year.  He won't get another shot again and can still do MMA after the season.

Sean Mcdermott (PA Native) is a big time college wrestling fan.  Maybe he sneaks him on to the practice squad for a year.  Get some money in his pocket.  I do think there is a niche in the NFL for former wrestlers to develop techniques that can translate to becoming a tackling coach.  It's god awful at times watching NFL d's trying to tackle.  Terrible form and technique

12 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

When did he file, with whom? You seem to know more about this than anyone.

What part of "If we are to believe his version" did you not understand?

starts @40:00

9 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Uh, Brooks admitted to taking it and that he didn’t have the proper paperwork initially.

That does not constitute cheating.  That's a filing error.  If we are to believe his version of events he went to take the drug test, wrote down that he was taking vyavsay, and was flagged because he didn't bring his prescription.  He then filed it properly and was cleared to wrestle.  

37 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

At this point I’m not convinced that Brooks is any less of a cheater than Fix was proven to be.

How is Brooks a cheater?  Other than a Mineo tweet what other evidence are you working with?

On 5/13/2024 at 3:09 PM, 1032004 said:

I wonder if all the PSU fans jumping to his defense had the same thing to say about Daton Fix?

Don't recall PSU fans saying anything more or less on Daton Fix than any other fanbase.  Only thing I remember were jokes about Mr. Fix.  Last time I checked Aaron Brooks is wrestling for team USA