PortaJohn

If anyone can get themselves out of suffocating cement, spread their wings and fly it's certainly you

What are we arguing? Carter said he could go 197 or heavyweight. Emphasis on the word "could". That's different than what you implied. I do believe his trash talking to Ferrari about 190 was childish and low

I don't ever remember him saying he was going 197. He said he could when talking about his dad calling him up telling him to do it but he wasn't sure if his dad was joking. Cael was the one that said, "Carter 197 pound NCAA champ". He did say it was possible.

WKN, thank you for doing this. I've got another one. Little more challenging. Transfer portal success since 2018/2019 season. To qualify wrestler must've competed in his conference tournament prior to transferring. Wrestlers like Mesenbrink wouldn't count

The parody will be when @Jon_Kozak and the boys at FRL steal this topic and present it as their own

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Did a bad job of requesting the data. Wanted the data starting from the 1998-1999 season

Then Bruce Baumgartner is the Goat

Pritzlaff was the other multi time champ. Thats 7 champs (14 titles) compared to 125 5 champs (12 titles). I definitely missed the mark on 125. I should've gone with my first hunch 149. I think it's only (7 titles).

You're correct about Imar but Taylor won both his titles at 165

Oof - Just off the top of my head I can list these multi time champs at 165- Taylor, Cenzo, KOT, Dierenger, Hendricks, Perry, Imar...Who am I missisng?

Good chance. If Yianni and Zain didn't man 149 for a few years that would've been my pick. I think Metcalf was the only mutli time champ at that weight prior to them

I'm rolling with 125

You can't proclaim someone as the Goat that lost his spot and had to move to a non olympic weight. You also can't proclaim someone as the Goat that didn't even medal during one of his olympic competitions. EDIT: Not going to delete it and hide from my second point but it's off the mark. Satiev didn't medal in 2000 and many consider him the Goat

Hard to imagine anyone winning 4 titles at 125. @Wrestleknownothing that would be a fun thread. Stats on which weight class has the most parity in champions since 1998.

John Smith is and people seem to forget Bruce won four Olympic Medals (G,G,S,B) and 9 world medals 3 G, 3 S, & 3 Bronze.

He is in no way shape or form the GOAT

There are only 4 ingredients to a cinnabon. Heavy mix or PSU/Iowa, splash of Michigan, and a sprinkle of tOSU. But, I heard in the corporate board meeting they're coming out with a new mix to include the Pistol Pete

Hard to imagine Facundo at 157. Heard he was struggling with the cut to 165 back in '23. But guys will have to make sacrifices to make the PSU lineup

Just a hunch. Starocci goes '84. Barr goes '97. Levi starts the year in Redshirt. Facundo gets the go @174 but is on a short leash

Fair point. Levi's ability to stay heavy with his hips and use his strength is a problem for KOT. Just not at the point calling Levi the clear favorite.

Haines matches up well against KOT in Freestyle. Without the exposure threat KOT will be able to get to his scrambles in Folk. A rematch would look a lot different. I wouldn't put money on it. Think it's a true toss-up

I'd still put him as the slight favorite. I never trust backside results in a freestyle tournament but Levi is right there with him if he wrestles this year. Interesting to see Hamiti go this year with Taylor as his coach. It's wild that Hamiti and O'Toole have yet to face off in college unless I'm forgetting a match. Rocco Welsh will be in the mix but at this point it's hard to gauge his ceiling. Is old man Brands still talking about going 174? He'll be a tough out for anyone at NCAA's. Doubt Kennedy or Arnold will have much for Keegan.

The Peter Thiel controversy is just noise from the left when Nate Silver doesn't present data advantageous to Kamala. No different than the conspiracies Trump supporters claim when numbers aren't advantageous to him. Nate's out there taking fire from both sides. That's the greatest tell tale sign he's doing a wonderful job.

Not cynical at all. My reasoning is based on data. Trump lost his debates to Clinton. He also lost to Biden. Won one election. Lost the other. People know who they are going to vote for at the start of the election cycle.