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Is this in response to me? Because if so I will gladly respond.

The answer is fairly simple. Iran has a strong secular population and both Dems and Republicans believe a friendly relationship is a bridge we can mend in the future. Israel also has strong ties to that same secular population. As for Russia both parties (D&R) have tried to maintain some sort of relationship with Putin. It's not a negative. The remnants of the Iron Curtain is on its last leg and it is important we keep an open dialogue. It would be far worse for our future if Russia lands in the lap of China. Lots of stupidity in this thread

Little further back but would Brock Lesnar count?

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Cael is a state champ from Utah.

Part of the reason why GOAT conversations are silly is because we all have our interpretations of what qualifies someone as the Goat. I would never argue it because the results don't add up but I still think Cary Kolat is the best US wrestler to take the mat in freestyle. I think he's the most talented American to do it. I'd put Spencer Lee as a close second. Maybe even first. IMO their freestyle skills far surpass JB, Dave Schultz, Bruce, John Smith etc. But they don't have the hardware to enter the conversation.

If anyone can get themselves out of suffocating cement, spread their wings and fly it's certainly you

What are we arguing? Carter said he could go 197 or heavyweight. Emphasis on the word "could". That's different than what you implied. I do believe his trash talking to Ferrari about 190 was childish and low

I don't ever remember him saying he was going 197. He said he could when talking about his dad calling him up telling him to do it but he wasn't sure if his dad was joking. Cael was the one that said, "Carter 197 pound NCAA champ". He did say it was possible.

WKN, thank you for doing this. I've got another one. Little more challenging. Transfer portal success since 2018/2019 season. To qualify wrestler must've competed in his conference tournament prior to transferring. Wrestlers like Mesenbrink wouldn't count

The parody will be when @Jon_Kozak and the boys at FRL steal this topic and present it as their own

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Did a bad job of requesting the data. Wanted the data starting from the 1998-1999 season

Then Bruce Baumgartner is the Goat

Pritzlaff was the other multi time champ. Thats 7 champs (14 titles) compared to 125 5 champs (12 titles). I definitely missed the mark on 125. I should've gone with my first hunch 149. I think it's only (7 titles).

You're correct about Imar but Taylor won both his titles at 165

Oof - Just off the top of my head I can list these multi time champs at 165- Taylor, Cenzo, KOT, Dierenger, Hendricks, Perry, Imar...Who am I missisng?

Good chance. If Yianni and Zain didn't man 149 for a few years that would've been my pick. I think Metcalf was the only mutli time champ at that weight prior to them

I'm rolling with 125

You can't proclaim someone as the Goat that lost his spot and had to move to a non olympic weight. You also can't proclaim someone as the Goat that didn't even medal during one of his olympic competitions. EDIT: Not going to delete it and hide from my second point but it's off the mark. Satiev didn't medal in 2000 and many consider him the Goat

Hard to imagine anyone winning 4 titles at 125. @Wrestleknownothing that would be a fun thread. Stats on which weight class has the most parity in champions since 1998.

John Smith is and people seem to forget Bruce won four Olympic Medals (G,G,S,B) and 9 world medals 3 G, 3 S, & 3 Bronze.

He is in no way shape or form the GOAT

There are only 4 ingredients to a cinnabon. Heavy mix or PSU/Iowa, splash of Michigan, and a sprinkle of tOSU. But, I heard in the corporate board meeting they're coming out with a new mix to include the Pistol Pete

Hard to imagine Facundo at 157. Heard he was struggling with the cut to 165 back in '23. But guys will have to make sacrifices to make the PSU lineup