boconnell

Do you think the Athletic Directors and athletic departments cared about the educational mission of the member schools? The people making decisions 20 years ago cared exactly as much about money as the people at Allstate do.

I think part of Steveson being so highly regarded is how he won his title. He crushed 2X world medalist Gwiz in two matches to make the team. Then he beat 4X Olympic and World champ Akgul in the semis 8-0. Then he beat 3X world reigning champ Petiashvili in the gold medal match. So that's the next best USA heavy of the past decade, and the two best international heavies of the past decade in a single gold medal run. Snyder has a comparable win over Sadulaev, but it didn't come while he was in college. He doesn't have a win on the level of Akgul or Petriashvilli while still in college. He also didn't have to beat anyone domestic at Gwiz' level. Steveson had probably the best couple month run of any college kid ever at any weight. And I agree Mocco is hanging around the top 5, but I can't put him over Konrad who had his way with him while both were at their peak.

I'd put Konrad in there. Mocco is probably near the top of these lists if Konrad doesn't exist. Nobody has ever had more usable size in the limited heavyweight era. It was impossible to hold the center of the mat against him, but it was impossible to attack him. So you just got walked backwards as inevitability set in.

And Brown AA Ophir Bernstein. And a few other guys who reached the college level. Allen has won like 15 straight team titles in Texas.

I didn't say anything about him overreaching when saying Hughes is good or will be good. I said it was bonkers to say Fix didn't know how to scramble and struggled against a bunch of guys he beat and a world champion he couldn't beat. I also said it was crazy to say Hughes is at Fix's level because both were 4Xers. I hope Hughes is great. I think he will be. I think there's a good chance he wins a title while Fix never did. But it's nuts to say Fix struggled late in his career because he couldn't beat RBY and Vito.

Then he should have said 'I'm excited about my guy and the future is bright'.

This is some bonkers stuff. Fix beat all of the guys you mentioned except Arujau. They didn't outscramble him. He didn't even touch Vito's leg for the most part. Vito scored clean off his own shots. And Vito's a world champ. He wasn't outscrambling Fix, he was just better at wrestling. Being a 4X Oklahoma champ doesn't mean they were similar in HS. There are tons of 4X Oklahoma champs, and most never come close to Fix's level. You are massively reaching to say Hughes is close to Fix, let alone better.

That's a decent job completely explaining away a pretty solid AA run. I am pretty sure you could make a similar argument for most 5th place AAs if your goal was to explain them away.

I'm sure they won't mind if you stop pretending.

Says the guy slinging insults on an internet discussion board in a thread about a social media post. The lack of self-awareness is staggering.

You're doing some serious mental gymnastics to make sure a tweet isn't wrong. I'll just leave it alone at this point because I should never have cared whether the tweet was right or wrong.

If he was offered more money elsewhere then he would be correct. I don't think he claimed that and I don't think anybody believes that happened. If it did I believe we'd have a report about it. We usually hear when huge numbers are thrown around.

Home and money over money elsewhere would be accurate. You can't claim home over money when home was more money. That's not how the english language works.

They can both be true if you acknowledge them. You can't claim to stay home for loyalty over money when you stayed home for loyalty and more money.

Yes. That is what I agreed with. PSU is the premiere program and nobody has the money to match them.

Cael already works for the team with the biggest warchest, but if you think someone has enough money to hire Cael away then good luck on that belief.

I would agree that PSU is now the premiere program and nobody in college wrestling has any hope of hiring Cael away.

I don't really root for Iowa, but it's funny to mention Austin Desantos not continuing to score on RBY in the context of not improving. Nobody in the country improved if the standard is whether they kept scoring on RBY. Especially for a guy a clear level (or more) below RBY's talent.

It's a dumb term that the sports world has applied to a really good prospect. By definition it should mean a guy who comes along once a generation (20+ years).

No way to justify Fix that low. He's got better FS credentials than every guy but #2 and better folkstyle credentials then all but 1-3 and 7 (and 7 hasn't outplaced him since 2019). It would be a stretch to put him at 5. 8 is dumb.

Great interview.

This is really what you're asking.

Yep. Messenbrink did nothing the whole match then got fake tough at the end. JB then got fake tough in retaliation. The ref awarded a penalty point. End of story.

It absolutely wouldn't have happened if it wasn't a PSU wrestler and it wasn't JB. But who cares that it happened. It's completely okay to root for one wrestler over another. If PSU fans booed JB in the olympics while he represented the USA, then I'd raise an eyebrow. But this? This is nothing. PSU fans cheered for their guy and against the opponent. That makes them like all other fans.

All-time stupid post to call JB a perpetual runner-up after a tournament where he wasn't even the runner-up.