War just broke out

[red viking]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

Getting rid of terrorism and their ability to get nukes saves the Iranian people.  If they got a nuke they would use it then they would all be dead 

BS. Not on us; that's for sure. At least if we left them alone. But with all our meddling there, THAT is what puts us at risk. WE'd be at less risk if we left them alone than if we keep trying to control them. 

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, red viking said:

BS. Not on us; that's for sure. At least if we left them alone. But with all our meddling there, THAT is what puts us at risk. WE'd be at less risk if we left them alone than if we keep trying to control them. 

So when the prophet Muhammad Instructed his Sunni followers to eradicate Jews from the Arabian peninsula because their religions are not kosher together ….. and these Sunni followers think being righteous is following his words as the letter of the law.   Was that before during or after the beef with the current country of Israel?

[red viking]

3 minutes ago, Caveira said:

So when the prophet Muhammad Instructed his Sunni followers to eradicate Jews from the Arabian peninsula because their religions are not kosher together ….. and these Sunni followers think being righteous is following his words as the letter of the law.   Was that before during or after the beef with the current country of Israel?

You should read the Old Testament and see what your so-called God tells his people to do. 

[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, red viking said:

You should read the Old Testament and see what your so-called God tells his people to do. 

Are they listening to the Old Testament today or nah?  See that’s  the diff…. Muslims still have that old look and feel 

Edited May 27 by Caveira

[1032004]

7 minutes ago, Caveira said:

So when the prophet Muhammad Instructed his Sunni followers to eradicate Jews from the Arabian peninsula because their religions are not kosher together ….. and these Sunni followers think being righteous is following his words as the letter of the law.   Was that before during or after the beef with the current country of Israel?

Is this like how Israel thinks they’re entitled to the West Bank because it says so in the Bible?

Edited May 27 by 1032004

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, 1032004 said:

Is this like how Israel thinks they’re entitled to the West Bank because it says so in the Bible?

Palestine which nefer existed on the land they want.   Was offered  free peaceful country about 12 times but chose war every time.   

[1032004]

2 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Palestine which nefer existed on the land they want.   Was offered  free peaceful country about 12 times but chose war every time.   

Two wrongs don’t make a right 

[Caveira]

9 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Two wrongs don’t make a right 

Yawn.     12 bazillion declinations of peace in favor of war doesn’t make this a two way street boss 

they didn’t even wait one day to finish negotiations in 1948/49 when they had all the Arab nations gang up on them.   Tbis is of course before they realized their military wasn’t up to snub.   Gotta learn somehow right?

Edited May 27 by Caveira

[Offthemat]

1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

Two wrongs don’t make a right 

How about half a dozen ass whoopins, what does that make?  Are you wearing your beeper today?  Carrying it in your front pants pocket?

[red viking]

8 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

How about half a dozen ass whoopins, what does that make?  Are you wearing your beeper today?  Carrying it in your front pants pocket?

Israel has killed MANY more Palestinians than vice versa in recent years. It isn't even close, especially when you count women & children. 

They're the epitome of terrorists. 

 

Edited May 27 by red viking

[StillUndefeated]

Zionist organizations play mind games on American citizens. Take the following topic about 'IQ by nation':

That ridiculously low IQ listed for Somalia is just a distraction. They had one main goal: to plant the idea in Americans' minds that Israelis are smarter than them.

If that absurd claim about Somalia wasn't at the bottom, average American readers might actually question why their IQ is listed as lower than Israelis'. But the organization was clever, they threw in that wild claim about Somalia to absorb all the backlash. The reader gets fixated on Somalia, but in the back of their mind, the idea takes root that an Israeli is not only smarter than an American, but even smarter than a Japanese person; who are globally stereotyped as highly intelligent. The American reader thinks, 'Well, if Israelis are smarter than the Japanese, I guess it makes sense they’re smarter than us too.' But instead of buying into this nonsense, you just need to look at actual findings from the American Psychological Association (APA). They are independent and have published dozens of books on intelligence. Neither the Japanese nor the Israelis are inherently smarter than Americans.

This is the kind of psychological conditioning Zionists do in the US. They’ve essentially brainwashed a portion of the American public, and the current US administration is clearly part of that group.

 

Edited May 27 by StillUndefeated

[1032004]

2 hours ago, Caveira said:

Yawn.     12 bazillion declinations of peace in favor of war doesn’t make this a two way street boss 

they didn’t even wait one day to finish negotiations in 1948/49 when they had all the Arab nations gang up on them.   Tbis is of course before they realized their military wasn’t up to snub.   Gotta learn somehow right?

The Palestinians in the West Bank where Hamas doesn’t even control don’t want war, they want to live in peace and not be attacked and have their land stolen by Israeli settlers who are funded by the government.

[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

The Palestinians in the West Bank where Hamas doesn’t even control don’t want war, they want to live in peace and not be attacked and have their land stolen by Israeli settlers who are funded by the government.

Tell that to the masters they voted for 

[1032004]

Just now, Caveira said:

Tell that to the masters they voted for 

Can you read?  Hamas doesn’t control the West Bank

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Can you read?  Hamas doesn’t control the West Bank

your Google machine is broke.   66% of people in the West Bank approve of Hamas boss …. Cause Jews are no bueno 

While Hamas does not hold governing power, independent polling data from organizations like the PCPSR shows that Hamas still maintains significant political support and influence among West Bank residents. This support is often driven by widespread local frustration with the PA's perceived corruption and cooperation with Israel. [1, 2, 3]

Edited May 27 by Caveira

[StillUndefeated]

Polls in the Middle East are a joke; none of them are reliable. I’ve looked at tons of polls that were supposedly done in Iran, but honestly, nobody's ever reached out to me for my input. How do they even pull these off? Who is their target audience anyway? Sure, these agencies usually share their research methods, but that stuff only works in the West, not the Middle East. Most people here just skip polls because of zero trust. Only the people who back terrorists end up taking them, so it makes total sense that they’d vote for them.

[Caveira]

6 minutes ago, StillUndefeated said:

Polls in the Middle East are a joke; none of them are reliable. I’ve looked at tons of polls that were supposedly done in Iran, but honestly, nobody's ever reached out to me for my input. How do they even pull these off? Who is their target audience anyway? Sure, these agencies usually share their research methods, but that stuff only works in the West, not the Middle East. Most people here just skip polls because of zero trust. Only the people who back terrorists end up taking them, so it makes total sense that they’d vote for them.

I read these poll results.   They pass the smell test  

 

 

[1032004]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

I read these poll results.   They pass the smell test  

 

 

That’s not the West Bank

[Caveira]

Just now, 1032004 said:

That’s not the West Bank

Yawn.   66% support  boss

[Caveira]

3 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

That’s not the West Bank

https://www.memri.org/tv/palestinians-gaza-west-bank-celebrate-october-seven-massacre-hand-out-sweets-fire-guns

use the Google machine 

Following the October 7, 2023, Hamas attack, Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank celebrated in the streets by handing out sweets and firing guns, as shown in reports from Al-Jazeera Network and Al-Mayadeen TV. Footage from the attacks, which resulted in significant casualties and hostage-taking, displays widespread celebrations across multiple cities. For more details, visit MEMRI.

[Caveira]

6 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

That’s not the West Bank

Beyond the initial October 7 celebrations, there are numerous other documented instances on video and in journalism showing public support for Hamas in the West Bank. These usually center around prisoner exchanges, the deaths of high-ranking Hamas leaders, or mass demonstrations in local refugee camps. [1, 2]

 

1. Welcoming Released Palestinian Prisoners [1]

During the November 2023 temporary truce and hostage-prisoner swap, large crowds gathered in the West Bank to welcome home released detainees.

• The Video: Sky News Australia analyzed these events in their broadcast Support for Hamas has 'grown considerably' in the West Bank.
• What it shows: Thousands of Palestinians in West Bank streets waving the green flags of Hamas. Security experts noted that the crowds explicitly used Hamas iconography to publicly thank the group for forcing the release of the prisoners. [1, 2]

 

2. Protests Following the Death of Hamas Leadership [1]

When senior Hamas political and military figures are assassinated, major rallies are triggered across the West Bank territory. [1]

• Beirut Strike Rallies (January 2024): Following the assassination of senior Hamas leader Saleh al-Arouri in Lebanon, Reuters and global outlets captured immediate mass demonstrations. A video report titled West Bank protesters rally in support of Hamas shows Palestinians marching through the streets at night chanting slogans in solidarity with the group's armed wing.
• Ismail Haniyeh Protests (August 2024): Following the assassination of Hamas political chief Ismail Haniyeh, The New York Times documented protests in A Show of Support for Hamas in a Rival's Backyard. Video from the city of Jenin shows a crowd marching through the streets as a protest leader chants over a loudspeaker, "We from the land of Jenin affirm that we are all Hamas." [1, 2, 3]

 

3. Media Documentaries on West Bank Radicalization

Several major news outlets have sent investigative teams into the West Bank to film the shifting political sentiment on the ground.

• BBC News Report (December 2023): The report Support for Hamas grows in occupied West Bank focuses heavily on the younger generation. It features video interviews with West Bank youth openly stating that Hamas's methods are the only effective way to counter the Israeli occupation, rejecting the peaceful diplomacy of the Palestinian Authority.
• Voice of America (January 2024): In the video report West Bank Support for Hamas Rises Rapidly, journalists film local rallies and break down polling numbers showing how local frustration with economic stagnation has driven armed resistance support up to 70% among polled West Bank residents. [1, 2, 3, 4]

 

4. Direct Support for the Al-Qassam Brigades

• Tulkarem Rallies (October 2023): As reported by The Times of Israel in their live coverage of Hamas supporters taking to the streets in Tulkarem, hundreds of residents were filmed waving flags. The specific video captured the crowd chanting, "The people want the al-Qassam Brigades," referring directly to Hamas's military wing. [1]

 

[Caveira]

8 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

That’s not the West Bank

Following the assassination of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh, rare public displays of support for the group emerged in the West Bank, challenging the authority of the rival Fatah-led Palestinian Authority. Reporting indicates that 10 months of war have eroded the Palestinian Authority's legitimacy, causing a shift toward support for armed resistance among West Bank residents. Read the full story at The New York Times.
[1, 2]
 

 

[Caveira]

9 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

That’s not the West Bank

Palestinian poll shows Hamas widely supported in Gaza, West Bank - analysis

A recent poll shows that 61% of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza prefer Hamas to be in control of the Gaza Strip

HAMAS MEMBERS in Gaza. (photo credit: REUTERS) ByHERB KEINON JUNE 16, 2024 21:24 Updated: JUNE 17, 2024 11:28

Palestinian pollster Khalil Shikaki released a survey of Palestinian attitudes on Wednesday – the third since October 7 – showing that fully 61% of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza would prefer to see Hamas in control of the Gaza Strip and that support for the terrorist organization far outstrips that of Fatah.

Nevertheless, the headline of a New York Times front page article on Sunday read, “Gazans voice their distress under Hamas.” The online headline to the story was, “As war drags on, Gazans more willing to speak out against Hamas.”

 

Three days after a prominent Palestinian pollster referred to as such by a senior New York Times writer in November, released a poll indicating one trend among Palestinians, the Times published a front-page article that seemed to contradict those poll findings.

While the poll showed strong support for Hamas among Palestinians, the Times article, based on “interviews with nearly a dozen Gaza in recent months,” portrayed a different narrative of dissatisfaction with Hamas rule in Gaza.
The article acknowledged that while gauging public opinion in Gaza is more difficult now even than it was in the past and, in some instances, renders contradictory results, “some recent surveys reflect the weak or mixed support in Gaza for Hamas and its leaders.”

[El Luchador]

21 minutes ago, StillUndefeated said:

Polls in the Middle East are a joke; none of them are reliable. I’ve looked at tons of polls that were supposedly done in Iran, but honestly, nobody's ever reached out to me for my input. How do they even pull these off? Who is their target audience anyway? Sure, these agencies usually share their research methods, but that stuff only works in the West, not the Middle East. Most people here just skip polls because of zero trust. Only the people who back terrorists end up taking them, so it makes total sense that they’d vote for them.

I would question the poll if it didn't follow along with my personal experiences. BTW welcome back. I was wondering how you were doing with all the stuff going on there. Would love to hear some direct experiences from regular people.

[El Luchador]

3 hours ago, red viking said:

BS. Not on us; that's for sure. At least if we left them alone. But with all our meddling there, THAT is what puts us at risk. WE'd be at less risk if we left them alone than if we keep trying to control them. 

Do be a fool. The Islamists are bound to destroy the big Satan.