Virginia Tech next year

[Antitroll2828]

10 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

another age cheater. so crazy to see elite guys doing it, who would have been elite without cheating. someone is giving their parents and these athletes some rotten advice. 

Age cheater ? Guys have been staying back for 30 years now, Damian hahn talks about how staying back in 8th grade was the best decision for his future 

[WrestlingRash]

1 minute ago, Antitroll2828 said:

Brands has alienated and has beef with darn near every wrestler that has left iowa from metcalf to Ramos to Gilman. The number 4 wrestler in the country just got kicked off the team in the middle of the night with no explanation but yea sure Brands would never get into it with a parent. I’m sure it’s everyone else’s fault and not the Brands and the 100 percent loyalty cult they started. 

the bassetts wanted travel to the rtc paid for and that wasn't allowed by the NCAA. the bassetts got their egos hurt because Jax was getting those benefits from OK state. The story you are regurgitating was manufactured by the bassetts in the interest of making them not look like drama queens. and here you are, parroting it like you know something LOL 

[WrestlingRash]

2 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said:

Age cheater ? Guys have been staying back for 30 years now, Damian hahn talks about how staying back in 8th grade was the best decision for his future 

yes, age cheating works. so do steroids. are you okay with that too?

[Antitroll2828]

Just now, WrestlingRash said:

yes, age cheating works. so do steroids. are you okay with that too?

It’s not age cheating when 90 percent of the guys do it and not just in wrestling 

[WrestlingRash]

Just now, Antitroll2828 said:

It’s not age cheating when 90 percent of the guys do it and not just in wrestling 

90%? you are dumber than I thought. 

If holding your kid back in school to give them an advantage over other kids who aren't held back isn't cheating...LOLOLOL I can't with you. you are defending cheating. 

[WrestlingRash]

5 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said:

It’s not age cheating when 90 percent of the guys do it and not just in wrestling 

Alright—no sugarcoating. Here it is, blunt and unvarnished.

Holding a kid back solely to give them an athletic advantage is cheating because it is deliberate fraud dressed up as “development.” You are intentionally manipulating age, size, strength, and maturity differences to manufacture wins that were never earned. That’s not strategy. That’s not coaching. That’s lying with paperwork.

In wrestling especially—where age, puberty, and physical development matter enormously—this is the equivalent of loading dice and then bragging about how good you are at rolling sixes. You didn’t out-train anyone. You didn’t out-coach anyone. You out-bureaucrat’d a bunch of kids whose parents didn’t game the system.

And let’s be clear about the moral level here:

• You’re stealing opportunities from kids who played by the rules.

• You’re polluting competition so badly that wins become meaningless.

• You’re teaching the athlete that dishonesty is more important than effort, and that success comes from manipulation, not merit.

• You’re telling everyone—loudly—that you don’t believe your kid (or your program) is good enough to win fair.

That’s loser behavior. Full stop.

Anyone who does this is announcing to the world:

“I couldn’t cut it on equal footing, so I rigged the game and want applause anyway.”

That’s not competitive. That’s pathetic insecurity wrapped in a warm-up jacket.

Now, defending it? That’s even worse.

Defending it means you looked at blatant, intentional unfairness and said, “Yeah, I’m okay with cheating as long as my side benefits.” That’s not nuance. That’s not realism. That’s moral rot. You’re not protecting kids—you’re protecting your ego, your win-loss record, or your Saturday bragging rights.

And the real kicker?
Everyone knows. Coaches know. Officials know. Other parents know. The kids know. Those wins come with an asterisk so big it might as well be tattooed on the bracket.

So congratulations—you “won,” and everyone silently filed you under fraud.

If you need to make a teenager older just to feel successful in a middle school or high school sport, you didn’t build a champion.
You built a lie—and then taught a kid to stand on it.

[2001Hokie]

38 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

Alright—no sugarcoating. Here it is, blunt and unvarnished.

Holding a kid back solely to give them an athletic advantage is cheating because it is deliberate fraud dressed up as “development.” You are intentionally manipulating age, size, strength, and maturity differences to manufacture wins that were never earned. That’s not strategy. That’s not coaching. That’s lying with paperwork.

In wrestling especially—where age, puberty, and physical development matter enormously—this is the equivalent of loading dice and then bragging about how good you are at rolling sixes. You didn’t out-train anyone. You didn’t out-coach anyone. You out-bureaucrat’d a bunch of kids whose parents didn’t game the system.

And let’s be clear about the moral level here:

• You’re stealing opportunities from kids who played by the rules.

• You’re polluting competition so badly that wins become meaningless.

• You’re teaching the athlete that dishonesty is more important than effort, and that success comes from manipulation, not merit.

• You’re telling everyone—loudly—that you don’t believe your kid (or your program) is good enough to win fair.

That’s loser behavior. Full stop.

Anyone who does this is announcing to the world:

“I couldn’t cut it on equal footing, so I rigged the game and want applause anyway.”

That’s not competitive. That’s pathetic insecurity wrapped in a warm-up jacket.

Now, defending it? That’s even worse.

Defending it means you looked at blatant, intentional unfairness and said, “Yeah, I’m okay with cheating as long as my side benefits.” That’s not nuance. That’s not realism. That’s moral rot. You’re not protecting kids—you’re protecting your ego, your win-loss record, or your Saturday bragging rights.

And the real kicker?
Everyone knows. Coaches know. Officials know. Other parents know. The kids know. Those wins come with an asterisk so big it might as well be tattooed on the bracket.

So congratulations—you “won,” and everyone silently filed you under fraud.

If you need to make a teenager older just to feel successful in a middle school or high school sport, you didn’t build a champion.
You built a lie—and then taught a kid to stand on it.

By definition, it isn't cheating if there isn't a rule against it.  There are age rules of who can or can't compete, to which they've abided.  But regardless of that, is it any different than weight cutting?  Wouldn't someone who figured out how to cut weight really well, then rehydrate and be much bigger than their opponent be pushing the same type of issue?  How unfair that is then to their much smaller opponent...

At some point, just get over it.  We've heard this argued so many damn times from you and a couple others.  We understand you don't like it.  It happened.  Root against him and every other person that grey-shirts anywhere from middle school through college.  

[WrestlingRash]

Just now, 2001Hokie said:

By definition, it isn't cheating if there isn't a rule against it.  There are age rules of who can or can't compete, to which they've abided.  But regardless of that, is it any different than weight cutting?  Wouldn't someone who figured out how to cut weight really well, then rehydrate and be much bigger than their opponent be pushing the same type of issue?  How unfair that is then to their much smaller opponent...

At some point, just get over it.  We've heard this argued so many damn times from you and a couple others.  We understand you don't like it.  It happened.  Root against him and every other person that grey-shirts anywhere from middle school through college.  

LOL there is no steroid testing in high school either, so by your logic, that isn't cheating either? you are a fool. You know why there aren't rules against it? The cheaters are always a little bit ahead of the rules makers. Nobody in their right mind thought people would be scummy enough to age cheat so there isn't a rule against it. There isn't a rule against drugging your opponent before the match either, so is that okay with you too? If you are any indication of the unethical little brother inferiority complex that permeates the VTech fan base, you toothless bums have found your perfect hero in age cheater bassett. 

[HokieDave87]

Bo is fitting in great at VT for all who care so deeply about the kid. When he comes down to train at the RTC he usually stays off campus at Caleb's place. I don't believe VT pays for gas but he is allowed and comes down frequently. Along with the kids, Bill and Karissa fit in great with the other parents and staff, don't overstep at all, and are a great addition to the VT family. Not sure I'll get to see them again for a while depending on PIAA postseason schedule but the interactions I've had with them are always great. 

I've been around wrestling for 30+ years. I've seen BAD parents, kids, entire families. People who have a grudge against the Bassett's are laughable in every way. 

[TNwrestling]

57 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

 

And the real kicker?
Everyone knows. Coaches know. Officials know. Other parents know. The kids know. Those wins come with an asterisk so big it might as well be tattooed on the bracket.

 

 

2 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

 Nobody in their right mind thought people would be scummy enough to age cheat so there isn't a rule against it. 

So which is it? Everybody knows or nobody in their right mind would ever do it? If everybody knows but hates it then you'd think a rule would've been implemented by now (ftr, there IS an age rule in place, and neither bo nor melvin are in violation of it).

 

This is why I love going at you. You're so quick to contradict yourself. 

[TNwrestling]

Just now, HokieDave87 said:

Bo is fitting in great at VT for all who care so deeply about the kid. When he comes down to train at the RTC he usually stays off campus at Caleb's place. I don't believe VT pays for gas but he is allowed and comes down frequently. Along with the kids, Bill and Karissa fit in great with the other parents and staff, don't overstep at all, and are a great addition to the VT family. Not sure I'll get to see them again for a while depending on PIAA postseason schedule but the interactions I've had with them are always great. 

I've been around wrestling for 30+ years. I've seen BAD parents, kids, entire families. People who have a grudge against the Bassett's are laughable in every way. 

brain react

[WrestlingRash]

1 minute ago, TNwrestling said:

 

So which is it? Everybody knows or nobody in their right mind would ever do it? If everybody knows but hates it then you'd think a rule would've been implemented by now (ftr, there IS an age rule in place, and neither bo nor melvin are in violation of it).

 

This is why I love going at you. You're so quick to contradict yourself. 

like I said, rules lag behind the cheaters. There will be rules eventually. enjoy being a cheater until then.

[HokieDave87]

5 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

LOL there is no steroid testing in high school either, so by your logic, that isn't cheating either? you are a fool. You know why there aren't rules against it? The cheaters are always a little bit ahead of the rules makers. Nobody in their right mind thought people would be scummy enough to age cheat so there isn't a rule against it. There isn't a rule against drugging your opponent before the match either, so is that okay with you too? If you are any indication of the unethical little brother inferiority complex that permeates the VTech fan base, you toothless bums have found your perfect hero in age cheater bassett. 

PIAA has an age limit and Bo is within that limit. 

[TNwrestling]

10 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

like I said, rules lag behind the cheaters. There will be rules eventually. enjoy being a cheater until then.

There is a rule. I'll even cite it for you

 

Page 11 Section 1.

Maximum Age Rule. A student shall be ineligible for interscholastic athletic competition upon attaining the age of nineteen years, with the following exception: If the age of 19 is attained on or after July 1, the student is eligible, age-wise, to compete through that school year.

 

Since he turned 19 after his senior year had begun, he was in compliance with the rule. 

 

Also, for extra credit, you said this

17 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

LOL there is no steroid testing in high school either, so by your logic, that isn't cheating either? you are a fool. You know why there aren't rules against it? The cheaters are always a little bit ahead of the rules makers.

Page 49

 

PENNSYLVANIA LAW PROVISIONS AFFECTING ATHLETIC ELIGIBILITY OF STUDENTS USING ANABOLIC STEROIDS

Pennsylvania Act 1989-93 requires the School Board in every Pennsylvania school district to prescribe, adopt, and enforce rules and regulations to prohibit the use of anabolic steroids, except for a valid medical purpose, by any student involved in school-related athletics. The Act also requires the School Board to prescribe the following minimum penalties for any student found in violation of the rules and regulations adopted by the School Board:

1. For a first violation, suspension from school athletics for the remainder of the season.

2. For a second violation, suspension from school athletics for the remainder of the season and for the following season.

3. For a third violation, permanent suspension from school athletics.

A student who has been suspended for violation of the School Board regulations shall not be eligible to resume participation in school athletics unless there has been a medical determination that no residual evidence of steroids exists. The penalties which the law requires School Boards to adopt are minimum penalties. More severe penalties may be adopted by individual school districts, and the actual penalties may therefore vary from school district to school district.

 

So, yet again, you're wrong. There's rules for both of these instances. Said it before, and will again im sure, do us all a favor and delete your account. 

Edited January 27 by TNwrestling

[WrestlingRash]

3 minutes ago, TNwrestling said:

There is a rule. I'll even cite it for you

 

Page 11 Section 1.

Maximum Age Rule. A student shall be ineligible for interscholastic athletic competition upon attaining the age of nineteen years, with the following exception: If the age of 19 is attained on or after July 1, the student is eligible, age-wise, to compete through that school year.

 

Since he turned 19 after his senior year had begun, he was in compliance with the rule. 

 

Also, for extra credit, you said this

Page 49

 

PENNSYLVANIA LAW PROVISIONS AFFECTING ATHLETIC ELIGIBILITY OF STUDENTS USING ANABOLIC STEROIDS

Pennsylvania Act 1989-93 requires the School Board in every Pennsylvania school district to prescribe, adopt, and enforce rules and regulations to prohibit the use of anabolic steroids, except for a valid medical purpose, by any student involved in school-related athletics. The Act also requires the School Board to prescribe the following minimum penalties for any student found in violation of the rules and regulations adopted by the School Board:

1. For a first violation, suspension from school athletics for the remainder of the season.

2. For a second violation, suspension from school athletics for the remainder of the season and for the following season.

3. For a third violation, permanent suspension from school athletics.

A student who has been suspended for violation of the School Board regulations shall not be eligible to resume participation in school athletics unless there has been a medical determination that no residual evidence of steroids exists. The penalties which the law requires School Boards to adopt are minimum penalties. More severe penalties may be adopted by individual school districts, and the actual penalties may therefore vary from school district to school district.

 

So, yet again, you're wrong. There's rules for both of these instances. Said it before, and will again im sure, do us all a favor and delete your account. 

LOL you are hilarious. So age cheating is all good with you? Sounds about right. Cheating scum. 

[WrestlingRash]

13 minutes ago, HokieDave87 said:

PIAA has an age limit and Bo is within that limit. 

you are okay with age cheats. the age limits were designed for kids who were held back for legitimate reasons, not because their daddy's pecker is so small that they have to cheat in high school wrestling by leaving their kid out of school for an extra year so they can angle shoot and major in the minors. just admit that you don't care about cheating and we can move on. no logical or ethical person can argue that age cheating isn't cheating. 

[TNwrestling]

21 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

LOL you are hilarious. So age cheating is all good with you? Sounds about right. Cheating scum. 

I just cited the rule and how they're in compliance with it and you're still whining like a four year old. Sounds about right.

[RandolphTJones]

Miller no reason to do another year of high school. He should do the Jax route. I think it'll also greatly help VT. They have a chance to finish top 4 next season. 

[WrestlingRash]

10 minutes ago, TNwrestling said:

I just cited the rule and how they're in compliance with it and you're still whining like a four year old. Sounds about right.

you really are dumb if you think those rules were put in place to prevent age cheaters and not for kids who were held back for actual developmental reasons (other than their daddy's dicks being the size of a baby cock)

[TNwrestling]

5 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

you really are dumb if you think those rules were put in place to prevent age cheaters and not for kids who were held back for actual developmental reasons (other than their daddy's dicks being the size of a baby cock)

Again, no matter how you try to swing your hatred for the Bassett family (for reasons beyond me), you can't call them "cheaters" as they havent broken any rules. 

[WrestlingRash]

4 minutes ago, TNwrestling said:

Again, no matter how you try to swing your hatred for the Bassett family (for reasons beyond me), you can't call them "cheaters" as they havent broken any rules. 

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

[HokieDave87]

1 hour ago, WrestlingRash said:

you are okay with age cheats. the age limits were designed for kids who were held back for legitimate reasons, not because their daddy's pecker is so small that they have to cheat in high school wrestling by leaving their kid out of school for an extra year so they can angle shoot and major in the minors. just admit that you don't care about cheating and we can move on. no logical or ethical person can argue that age cheating isn't cheating. 

"Age cheating" is why the India national team is a threat at cadets but not at the senior level. Bo medaling twice at Age-level worlds and legally competing in PIAA's is not "age cheating"

Again, why does nobody else get hate for this either? You just hate the Bassett's because they're good at wrestling. 

[TNwrestling]

17 minutes ago, HokieDave87 said:

"Age cheating" is why the India national team is a threat at cadets but not at the senior level. Bo medaling twice at Age-level worlds and legally competing in PIAA's is not "age cheating"

Again, why does nobody else get hate for this either? You just hate the Bassett's because they're good at wrestling. 

And he has a weird fascination with Bill's penis...

[WrestlingRash]

21 minutes ago, HokieDave87 said:

"Age cheating" is why the India national team is a threat at cadets but not at the senior level. Bo medaling twice at Age-level worlds and legally competing in PIAA's is not "age cheating"

Again, why does nobody else get hate for this either? You just hate the Bassett's because they're good at wrestling. 

all age cheaters are scum.

[WrestlingRash]

3 minutes ago, TNwrestling said:

And he has a weird fascination with Bill's penis...

all age cheating dads are microdicks.