Jimmy Cinnabon Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Lost in last night's Carver Creaming by Penn State was the fact that Rocco Welsh knocked off previous undefeated, #1 Angelo Ferrari. It was obviously a very passive match, with Ferrari spending close to 7 minutes wrestling from a knee and not shooting, and Welsh taking only a few more shots than Ferrari, but nonetheless, Welsh showed great match tactics and defense. Seeing as how he's now the only remaining undefeated 184 pounder does that bump him to #1? How do we see him faring against other elites such as Sinclair, McEnnelly and Ryder?
Tyler Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Of course he’s going to be #1 in the nest ranking. Vince Robison lost last night too. PSU will have six #1 ranked guys when the next rankings hit
Rassling Posted January 17 Posted January 17 While Ferrari is back to practicing on his knees, we now have a new number 1 and his name is Rocco Welch.
Caveira Posted January 17 Posted January 17 I forgot who invented that hand behind the back offensive juggernaut move?
hoosierdj Posted January 17 Posted January 17 (edited) Looked like the perfect tactic that all can emulated here on out. AF goes down onto knee, put hand on his head to keep distance, until he has to come up to wrestle. Why did this take so long to figure out? But I never got beyond being D1 practice dummy. And my lack of knowledge is indicated by my huge comment number. Edited January 17 by hoosierdj
Elevator Posted January 17 Posted January 17 I think Rocco deserves #1 rank by default, but remain skeptical that he has enough offense to win NCAA's against the field. I will tip my hat to his match strategy last night and acknowledge that he has solid defense and not easy to ride.
Nak21 Posted January 17 Posted January 17 He should go to #1 or #2, all that matters is March. He’ll be in the mix. Definitely would like to see more offense out of him, especially against top guys. Still a lot of season to go.
Psalm 1 guy Posted January 17 Posted January 17 2 hours ago, Elevator said: I think Rocco deserves #1 rank by default, but remain skeptical that he has enough offense to win NCAA's against the field. I will tip my hat to his match strategy last night and acknowledge that he has solid defense and not easy to ride. The top four at 184 are so close that you could pull any of their names out of a hat to be the National champion and it wouldn't surprise me in the least.
Pinnacle Posted January 17 Posted January 17 3 hours ago, Caveira said: I forgot who invented that hand behind the back offensive juggernaut move? Pretty sure RBY used that to beat Austin DeSanto 6 straight times, one tap out and then 5 more wins where Austin DeSanto never scored a TD in any of the 6 matches while RBY did score 1 or more TDs in all 6 matches. The series culminates with DeSanto on the mat with his face in his hands wondering how it had happened yet again in the 2022 NCAA semi finals. Here is the video if you care to re watch:
Caveira Posted January 18 Posted January 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pinnacle said: Pretty sure RBY used that to beat Austin DeSanto 6 straight times, one tap out and then 5 more wins where Austin DeSanto never scored a TD in any of the 6 matches while RBY did score 1 or more TDs in all 6 matches. The series culminates with DeSanto on the mat with his face in his hands wondering how it had happened yet again in the 2022 NCAA semi finals. Here is the video if you care to re watch: You would be correct. But it was a huge stall tactic Edited January 18 by Caveira
AgaveMaria Posted January 18 Posted January 18 He did win over the #1 ranked guy in a match that could easily have been decided by stall calls. A match you would not show to anyone you were trying to get interested in watching NCAA wrestling. ” Never attribute to inspiration that which can be adequately explained by delusion”.
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted January 18 Author Posted January 18 20 minutes ago, Caveira said: You would be correct. But it was a huge stall tactic How do you feel about wrestling from a knee and not attacking at all?
Caveira Posted January 18 Posted January 18 6 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: How do you feel about wrestling from a knee and not attacking at all? Y’all need to be remind of the stall tactics y'all invented and got behind.
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted January 18 Author Posted January 18 23 minutes ago, Caveira said: Y’all need to be remind of the stall tactics y'all invented and got behind. Penn State invented wrestling from a knee?
Caveira Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Just now, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Penn State invented wrestling from a knee? They invented wrestling with their arms behind their back yes. No one else has ever before or after embraced that stall tactic.
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted January 18 Author Posted January 18 1 minute ago, Caveira said: They invented wrestling with their arms behind their back yes. No one else has ever before or after embraced that stall tactic. Remind me what was the takedown count for both RBY and Desanto after RBY "invented" holding one arm behind his back?
Caveira Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Just now, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Remind me what was the takedown count for both RBY and Desanto after RBY "invented" holding one arm behind his back? I wouldn’t know one was to busy stalling the whole time
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted January 18 Author Posted January 18 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Caveira said: I wouldn’t know one was to busy stalling the whole time I'll save you the work. Desanto: 0 RBY: 8. Desanto beat RBY the first two time they wrestled. RBY then won the final 6 matches they wrestled - Desanto scored 0 takedowns in those 6 matches. But RBY stalled his way to victory 6 times in a row! Edited January 18 by Jimmy Cinnabon
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted January 18 Author Posted January 18 7 minutes ago, Caveira said: They invented wrestling with their arms behind their back yes. No one else has ever before or after embraced that stall tactic. Hmm, if it was such an effective tactic why was it never used before or ever again?
Caveira Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Just now, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Hmm, if it was such an effective tactic why was it never used before or ever again? Because it’s excessive stalling
Pinnacle Posted January 18 Posted January 18 48 minutes ago, Caveira said: Y’all need to be remind of the stall tactics y'all invented and got behind. Penn State's primary tactic is wrestling and winning championships.
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted January 18 Author Posted January 18 24 minutes ago, Caveira said: Because it’s excessive stalling How much did you enjoy watching the Iowa Penn State match last night?
Caveira Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Just now, Jimmy Cinnabon said: How much did you enjoy watching the Iowa Penn State match last night? It was enjoyable. I watch a lot of d1 wrestling. you paid your debts yet?
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