Shot Clock

[1032004]

What the heck is the letter of the rule on being put on the shot clock?

How does David Carr get put on the shot clock literally immediately after being in on a double?  (1:45 in this video)

 

[Wrestleknownothing]

2 hours ago, 1032004 said:

What the heck is the letter of the rule on being put on the shot clock?

How does David Carr get put on the shot clock literally immediately after being in on a double?  (1:45 in this video)

 

It is not a shot clock. We just call it that. It is about passivity. Sidakov spent almost the entire time with one or both feet in the center circle. Carr backed up and circled around the outside. This will always earn you passivity warnings no matter how many failed shots you take. Both these passivity warnings were correct. 

[Wrestleknownothing]

Criteria to consider a wrestler as passive:

 Evading attacks without counterattacks

 Grapping opponent wrists without starting an attack

 Attacking without any direct contact with the opponent

 Regaining initial position right after beginning an attack

 Fake attacks (Simulation)

 Evading into and maintaining in the passivity zone

 Avoiding the Wrestling in the center of the mat

 Fixing his opponent in the passivity zone

 No hooking despite good position

 Defensive wrestling

[Psalm 1 guy]

15 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

It is not a shot clock. We just call it that. It is about passivity. Sidakov spent almost the entire time with one or both feet in the center circle. Carr backed up and circled around the outside. This will always earn you passivity warnings no matter how many failed shots you take. Both these passivity warnings were correct. 

And per the United World Wrestling International Wrestling Rules it is officially referred to as "Activity Time" or "30 second activity period." Interestingly, the word "clock" is used nowhere in the rules, but I still refer to the action as "being put on the Activity clock." 

[alex1fly]

Freestyle values different things. Carr was the aggressor as far as trying to create offense (at least to us folkstyle fans), but his back isn't to the center and he didn't finish the shots so it doesn't count to the refs.

[maligned]

13 hours ago, 1032004 said:

What the heck is the letter of the rule on being put on the shot clock?

How does David Carr get put on the shot clock literally immediately after being in on a double?  (1:45 in this video)

 

To echo others, center control is valued above all else. Also, there are certain rough time markers in bouts where someone will be called for passivity, no matter what, if scoring isn't happening. Then it's simply, " who's controlling the center less?"

Edited 4 hours ago by maligned

[nhs67]

3 hours ago, alex1fly said:

Freestyle values different things. Carr was the aggressor as far as trying to create offense (at least to us folkstyle fans), but his back isn't to the center and he didn't finish the shots so it doesn't count to the refs.

We also see USAWrestling's refs enforce it quite differently than UWW Refs.

[Psalm 1 guy]

3 hours ago, maligned said:

To echo others, center control is valued above all else. Also, there are certain rough time markers in bouts where someone will be called for passivity, no matter what, if scoring isn't happening. Then it's simply, " who's controlling the center less?"

Per the United World Wrestling International Wrestling Rules:

If after 2:00 minutes into the first period neither wrestler has scored any point (score 0-0), the referees must mandatory designate one of the wrestlers as inactive (the same procedure described above is administered). c. When there is less than 30 seconds remaining in either period, if all three of the refereeing body agree a wrestler is evading and/or blocking his opponent, then his/her opponent is awarded one point and caution (i.e fleeing the hold). This situation can be challenged. d. e. If a wrestler initiates his action some seconds before minute 2:00 with a 0:0 score, the referee will not interrupt the bout and will allow the wrestler to finish the action. If the action ends with points, the bout will continue without any interruption. If the action doesn’t end with points, the referee will stop the bout and will apply the activity time. For U15, U17 and Veterans age categories, no verbal warning will be given. The passivity procedure starts directly with activity time.

[Psalm 1 guy]

15 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Criteria to consider a wrestler as passive:

 Evading attacks without counterattacks

 Grapping opponent wrists without starting an attack

 Attacking without any direct contact with the opponent

 Regaining initial position right after beginning an attack

 Fake attacks (Simulation)

 Evading into and maintaining in the passivity zone

 Avoiding the Wrestling in the center of the mat

 Fixing his opponent in the passivity zone

 No hooking despite good position

 Defensive wrestling

The below-listed actions seem to be the ones that get U.S. wrestlers in trouble with the officials. I also think all of these actions stem from how folk style is officiated, rewarding these types of actions instead of how UWW rules reward control of center and maintaining contact with your opponent:

Attacking without any direct contact with the opponent

Regaining initial position right after beginning an attack

Fake attacks (Simulation)