What’s up with the 911,000 jobs?

[Caveira]

 

was he lying?
 

Another Massive Employment Whiff: 911,000 Jobs Vanish

More terrible employment news for the American economy…

According to the new numbers – published on Tuesday (September 9, 2025) by the perpetually goal-seeking U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) – a record 911,000 jobs were “disappeared” between the months of April 2024 and March 2025. That total – which represents 0.6% of the entire U.S. workforce – was even worse than last summer’s announcement of 818,000fewer jobs from April 2023 to March 2024.

It also came on top of previous downward revisions of 577,000for the period.

While the vast majority of “disappeared” jobs on the latest report (.pdf) came under the administration of former president Joe Biden, the revision period did include the first two months of the second term of president Donald Trump. And, as we noted last week, Trump’s numbers haven’t looked so hot since then…

[red viking]

Ignorance is bliss when you're a winger. 

If the jobs news is positive, beat your chest about it. 

If it's negative, it's either fake or the old data was fake (to make this look bad). 

You can't make this stuff up. 

Simpler explanation is that Trumptard is doing a horrible job with the economy, with tariffs bouncing all over the place to maximize uncertainty and drive up inflation. Also, AI is playing a role. 

[Bigbrog]

Just now, red viking said:

Ignorance is bliss when you're a winger. 

If the jobs news is positive, beat your chest about it. 

If it's negative, it's either fake or the old data was fake (to make this look bad). 

You can't make this stuff up. 

Simpler explanation is that Trumptard is doing a horrible job with the economy, with tariffs bouncing all over the place to maximize uncertainty and drive up inflation. Also, AI is playing a role. 

LOL...you do realize that you do the exact same thing, right?!  

[red viking]

6 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

LOL...you do realize that you do the exact same thing, right?!  

No, I don't. Questioning official government figures is completely different from questioning what some random idiot says on YouTube. 

[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, red viking said:

No, I don't. Questioning official government figures is completely different from questioning what some random idiot says on YouTube. 

The article is from YouTube.  That’s just a jokie joke video of Biden and me asking is he lying.   Read the words?

[Bigbrog]

10 minutes ago, red viking said:

No, I don't. Questioning official government figures is completely different from questioning what some random idiot says on YouTube. 

Ummm...yes you do!!  Then again we already establish you have zero ability to do any sort of self reflection

[Offthemat]

The mistakes always seem to favor the same people. 

[red viking]

18 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

The mistakes always seem to favor the same people. 

The "mistakes" even out over time, so thats ANOTHER 110% lie. Wow, ,they're non-stop. if they over-estimate this month, then they have to revise it downward the next month. New data comes in every month to provide a more refined estimate. 

And they aren't typically "mistakes." They're estimates based upon the evailable data but new data comes in after the initial estimate. 

It's very basic math & science.  

You should give all the whack job conspiracy theories a break. The wingers are constantly whining about being the victims. Literally everybody is out to "get" them. 

[Caveira]

52 minutes ago, red viking said:

The "mistakes" even out over time, so thats ANOTHER 110% lie. Wow, ,they're non-stop. if they over-estimate this month, then they have to revise it downward the next month. New data comes in every month to provide a more refined estimate. 

And they aren't typically "mistakes." They're estimates based upon the evailable data but new data comes in after the initial estimate. 

It's very basic math & science.  

You should give all the whack job conspiracy theories a break. The wingers are constantly whining about being the victims. Literally everybody is out to "get" them. 

Isn’t it the largest “mistake” in the history of these numbers?

[Wrestleknownothing]

2 hours ago, Caveira said:

Isn’t it the largest “mistake” in the history of these numbers?

Only a mistake if you have no clue how the numbers are created.

And no, the 2009 annual benchmark revision was larger in percentage terms. 

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Only a mistake if you have no clue how the numbers are created.

And no, the 2009 annual benchmark revision was larger in percentage terms. 

On September 9, 2025, the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), an agency of the U.S. Department of Labor, released a preliminary revision to its employment data, announcing it had overstated job growth between March 2024 and March 2025 by 911,000 positions. This was the largest downward preliminary revision on record, causing a significant public reaction.

[Lipdrag]

4 hours ago, Offthemat said:

The mistakes always seem to favor the same people. 

Yes.  If the mistakes were a random walk (statistically) then no one would be carping .  Or everyone would.  But when the mistakes are skewed there is  someone tipping the scales.  BLS is in a 92% partisan location.  My hypothesis is that their statistical errors are statistically significant which shows a causation effect.  Maybe one of our numerically gifted colleagues can prove or disprove my hypothesis.

Edited 1 hour ago by Lipdrag

[Wrestleknownothing]

24 minutes ago, Lipdrag said:

Yes.  If the mistakes were a random walk (statistically) then no one would be carping .  Or everyone would.  But when the mistakes are skewed there is  someone tipping the scales.  BLS is in a 92% partisan location.  My hypothesis is that their statistical errors are statistically significant which shows a causation effect.  Maybe one of our numerically gifted colleagues can prove or disprove my hypothesis.

Boy I would love to see your statistical analysis to back this up. I could use a good laugh.

[Wrestleknownothing]

1 hour ago, Caveira said:

On September 9, 2025, the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), an agency of the U.S. Department of Labor, released a preliminary revision to its employment data, announcing it had overstated job growth between March 2024 and March 2025 by 911,000 positions. This was the largest downward preliminary revision on record, causing a significant public reaction.

 

1 hour ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Only a mistake if you have no clue how the numbers are created.

And no, the 2009 annual benchmark revision was larger in percentage terms. 

Ah, the bolding game. Are you familiar with the meaning of that term?

[JimmySpeaks]

1 hour ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Only a mistake if you have no clue how the numbers are created.

And no, the 2009 annual benchmark revision was larger in percentage terms. 

Is that like with murder rates when a murder in South Dakota doubles the rate?  While in Chicago a half dozen people are murdered every weekend but the ratewent down so we claim violent crime is down and it’s safe. 

[Wrestleknownothing]

14 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Is that like with murder rates when a murder in South Dakota doubles the rate?  While in Chicago a half dozen people are murdered every weekend but the ratewent down so we claim violent crime is down and it’s safe. 

No. 

[JimmySpeaks]

1 minute ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

No. 

Ya it is. 

[Caveira]

21 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

 

Ah, the bolding game. Are you familiar with the meaning of that term?

0.7% vs 0.6% you sure pwned this.   It’s like you left the percentage out as it’s actually so small it’s irrelevant.   Given your profession you prolly know that too 

Edited 36 minutes ago by Caveira

[Wrestleknownothing]

9 minutes ago, Caveira said:

0.7% vs 0.6% you sure pwned this.   It’s like you left the percentage out as it’s actually so small it’s irrelevant.   Given your profession you prolly know that too 

Every time you are wrong feels irrelevant to you. 

[Caveira]

8 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Every time you are wrong feels irrelevant to you. 

I guess you got me ….. huge Biden lie (in this category) …. First or second biggest lie ever ….::   and you punt it back to some other… what do they call it.  A what about ism ?

Edited 18 minutes ago by Caveira

[Wrestleknownothing]

12 minutes ago, Caveira said:

I guess you got me ….. huge Biden lie (in this category) …. First or second biggest lie ever ….::   and you punt it back to some other… what do they call it.  A what about ism ?

I gave you a precise and detailed answer to your question. Because details matter. That you do not like the answer does not make it whataboutism. But when you only have a hammer everything looks like a nail.

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

I gave you a precise and detailed answer to your question. Because details matter. That you do not like the answer does not make it whataboutism. But when you only have a hammer everything looks like a nail.

Does illegal alien population growth have any impact on this number ?

[Caveira]

3 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

I gave you a precise and detailed answer to your question. Because details matter. That you do not like the answer does not make it whataboutism. But when you only have a hammer everything looks like a nail.

So being sooooo slightly smaller than the worse error in this category we shouldn’t care?