Mid decade redistricting

[JimmySpeaks]

2 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

The only time I worry about being wrong is when you agree with me.

How could you even know if you’re wrong or right?  

[1032004]

7 hours ago, Offthemat said:

You could have answered how opposites get elected, and you could have answered why opposites get elected, with the same ‘who knows’ answer.  That’s the only thing you got right, everything else proved that dims gerrymander more than Republicans.  Other than that, I’m going along with @JimmySpeaks.

Do you have a link backing up the claim that Dems do it more?  Here’s some interesting data on that question.  Among states with at least 4 house seats, looking at the top 12 states with the biggest discrepancies in house seats vs Presidential vote share, 7 favor Republicans and 5 favor Democrats.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/aug/04/jd-vance-redistricting-california-texas-democratic/

[Wrestleknownothing]

5 hours ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Nah it’s your daddy here telling it like it is.  You continue to babble aimlessly while avoiding answering anything you’re asked.   I know it sounds good in your head but you might want to leave it there.  

Not surprised in the least that you don't understand the difference between how and why either.

[JimmySpeaks]

1 hour ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Not surprised in the least that you don't understand the difference between how and why either.

Everyone here knows WHY you’re a continuous circle jerk. It’s HOW you pretend to be smart while saying absolutely nothing.  It won’t be a surprise when it happens again either. 

[Wrestleknownothing]

1 hour ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Everyone here knows WHY you’re a continuous circle jerk. It’s HOW you pretend to be smart while saying absolutely nothing.  It won’t be a surprise when it happens again either. 

Sadly, your level of dumb is not an act. 

[JimmySpeaks]

Just now, Wrestleknownothing said:

Sadly, your level of dumb is not an act. 

Coming from you this makes me smile. Go make a spreadsheet so people can coddle you with the love you so desire.  

[Wrestleknownothing]

58 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Coming from you this makes me smile. Go make a spreadsheet so people can coddle you with the love you so desire.  

And yet it is your impotent rage I find more entertaining.

[Offthemat]

4 hours ago, 1032004 said:

Do you have a link backing up the claim that Dems do it more?  Here’s some interesting data on that question.  Among states with at least 4 house seats, looking at the top 12 states with the biggest discrepancies in house seats vs Presidential vote share, 7 favor Republicans and 5 favor Democrats.

Nope, no link.  But advice: beware those who come bearing data.  
 

In your linked chart, the author omits states with three or fewer reps, supposedly because of some distortion they’d make , yet he has no problem comparing Oklahoma’s delegation of five reps as 100%, while California has about twice as many Republican delegates as 28%.  Some may find that chart interesting, but if you stop and think, it’s meaningless information. 

[1032004]

11 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

Nope, no link.  But advice: beware those who come bearing data.  
 

In your linked chart, the author omits states with three or fewer reps, supposedly because of some distortion they’d make , yet he has no problem comparing Oklahoma’s delegation of five reps as 100%, while California has about twice as many Republican delegates as 28%.  Some may find that chart interesting, but if you stop and think, it’s meaningless information. 

You’re not comparing the same columns.  Oklahoma has 100% Republican reps, California has 83% Dem.  The difference between % of house seats and Presidential vote share is 34% for Oklahoma, and 24% for California.

[Offthemat]

41 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

You’re not comparing the same columns.  Oklahoma has 100% Republican reps, California has 83% Dem.  The difference between % of house seats and Presidential vote share is 34% for Oklahoma, and 24% for California.

And it’s meaningless.  10% of California’s delegation is larger than 100% of Oklahoma’s.  

[1032004]

4 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

And it’s meaningless.  10% of California’s delegation is larger than 100% of Oklahoma’s.  

Your original claim was “Dems gerrymander more than Republicans.”  Now you’re moving the goalposts 

[Caveira]

1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

You’re not comparing the same columns.  Oklahoma has 100% Republican reps, California has 83% Dem.  The difference between % of house seats and Presidential vote share is 34% for Oklahoma, and 24% for California.

What’s the delta in overall head count of said reps 

[Offthemat]

25 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Your original claim was “Dems gerrymander more than Republicans.”  Now you’re moving the goalposts 

Before you can understand, you’ll have to realize that 1% in California is more than 10% in Oklahoma.  

[1032004]

4 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

Before you can understand, you’ll have to realize that 1% in California is more than 10% in Oklahoma.  

I do.  But the reason I posted that was in response to your claim which you refuse to back up about which side does it more.  Pointing out that California has a lot of people living there is irrelevant to that claim.

[Offthemat]

7 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I do.  But the reason I posted that was in response to your claim which you refuse to back up about which side does it more.  Pointing out that California has a lot of people living there is irrelevant to that claim.

What it means is that the chart you linked is irrelevant. 

[JimmySpeaks]

2 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

And yet it is your impotent rage I find more entertaining.

You’re Soft as fu#$ as expected. Rage. Bahahahahahahahahah. 

[1032004]

4 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

What it means is that the chart you linked is irrelevant. 

It’s very relevant to your original claim.  It’s less relevant to the new argument you’ve moved the goalposts to.

[Caveira]

34 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

It’s very relevant to your original claim.  It’s less relevant to the new argument you’ve moved the goalposts to.

 

50 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I do.  But the reason I posted that was in response to your claim which you refuse to back up about which side does it more.  Pointing out that California has a lot of people living there is irrelevant to that claim.

I think it is you that repeatedly makes this claim and refuses to back it up with any numerics or facts.  

[1032004]

20 minutes ago, Caveira said:

 

I think it is you that repeatedly makes this claim and refuses to back it up with any numerics or facts.  

What claim?

[Caveira]

5 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

What claim?

Which side does this more?  Show us your math 

[1032004]

14 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Which side does this more?  Show us your math 

I don’t think I made that claim.  @Offthemat made the claim that Dems do it more, but refused to back it up.  I did provide some math disputing it.   I think both sides probably do it about the same, I don’t know for sure but if I had to pick one I’d bet Republicans do it more, which was supported by the data I shared.

[Wrestleknownothing]

1 hour ago, Caveira said:

Which side does this more?  Show us your math 

Have I got good news for you. 

Per the Gerrymandering Project who "bridges the gap between mathematics and law" there are fifteen states that get a failing grade (D or F).

Of those two create no partisan advantage (Tennessee, Louisiana).

Five create a Democratic advantage (Oregon, New Mexico, Nevada, Illinois)

Nine create a Republican advantage (Utah, Texas, Kansas, Wisconsin, Ohio, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina)

The Democratic bias states have a total of 36 seats. 

The Republican bias seats have a total of 132 seats.

https://gerrymander.princeton.edu/

Edited 2 hours ago by Wrestleknownothing

[Tripnsweep]

4 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Have I got good news for you. 

Per the Gerrymandering Project who "bridges the gap between mathematics and law" there are fifteen states that get a failing grade (D or F).

Of those two create no partisan advantage (Tennessee, Louisiana).

Five create a Democratic advantage (Oregon, New Mexico, Nevada, Illinois)

Nine create a Republican advantage (Utah, Texas, Kansas, Wisconsin, Ohio, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina)

The Democratic bias states have a total of 36 seats. 

The Republican bias seats have a total of 132 seats.

https://gerrymander.princeton.edu/

Boom. 

[Bigbrog]

6 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

Boom. 

Because???